[gnso-policyimpl-wg] Attendance and Recording Policy and Implementation WG meeting - 05 November 2014
Dear All, The next Policy and Implementation Working Group teleconference is scheduled next week on Wednesday 12 November at 20:00 UTC for 1 hour. Please find the MP3 recording for the Policy and Implementation Working group call held on Wednesday 05 November 2014 at 20:00 UTC at: <http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-policy-implementation-20141105-en.mp3> http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-policy-implementation-20141105-en.mp3 On page: <http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar#nov> http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/calendar#nov The recordings and transcriptions of the calls are posted on the GNSO Master Calendar page: <http://gnso.icann.org/calendar/> http://gnso.icann.org/calendar/ Attendees: Cheryl Langdon-Orr - At-Large Chuck Gomes - RySG Alan Greenberg-ALAC Greg Shatan - IPC Michael Graham - IPC Anne Aikman-Scalese - IPC Wolf-Ulrich Knoben - ISPCP Tom Barrett - RrSG Amr Elsadr - NCUC Apologies: Avri Doria-NCSG Olevie Kouami - NPOC J.Scott Evans - BC ICANN staff: Marika Konings Mary Wong Amy Bivins Karen Lentz Berry Cobb Steve Chan Terri Agnew ** Please let me know if your name has been left off the list ** Wiki page: <https://community.icann.org/x/y1V-Ag> https://community.icann.org/x/y1V-Ag Thank you. Kind regards, Terri Agnew Adobe Chat Transcript for Wednesday 05 November 2014 Marika Konings:Welcome to the Policy & Implementation Working Group Meeting of 5 November 2014 Anne Aikman-Scalese:Hi all - on a noisy plane with spotty wifi. Will just try to listen and use chat. Anne Tom Barrett - EnCirca:hi all. still on another call Terri Agnew:Thank you Anne and Tom for the updated information Mary Wong:It's Guy Fawkes Day, for anyone who's more English-oriented ... Terri Agnew:Michael Graham has joined Alan Greenberg:It is indeed Guy Fawkes day. TIme for a bonfire tonight! Mary Wong:@Alan, yes - that's the best part! :) Berry Cobb:I will highlight that the presentexperiences of IRTs with Thick, UDRP-Lock and IRTP-C fed into the development of the CPIF that was reviewed with this WG several meetings ago. Berry Cobb:My apologies, I'm not dialed into the bridge. Anne Aikman-Scalese:@Berry - could you please remind me what CPIF means? Berry Cobb:Consensus Policy Implementation Framework. It is based on the waterfall model of systems implementation. Berry Cobb:It was the graphic and table presented something like three meetings back. Anne Aikman-Scalese:I thought you were talking about the Implementation Framework but couldn't remember what the CP was for. Thanks! Cheryl Langdon-Orr:yes thanks for linking that Berry Terri Agnew:Amr Elsadr has joined Amr Elsadr:Really sorry I'm so late. Roads snowed in!! Marika Konings:way before my time! ;-) Marika Konings:yes, the ones on the list are the 'official' IRTs under the revised PDP, that does not mean that there were not similar efforts that took place before that time as mentioned by Karen. Michael R. Graham:@Marika: The "additional outreach" you refer to -- it seems to me that the Expertise to be sought should be defined by the IRT -- or by the PDPWG in its proposal for IRT? Chuck Gomes:Good suggestion Michael to have WG define the expertise needed for IRT. Marika Konings:@Michael - I think it is probably a task for staff, with input from the IRT Marika Konings:as staff may also have expertise inhouse that is used Karen Lentz:sometimes once you are in process, you realize there is a need for another kind of expertise Amr Elsadr:In the case of "thick" whois, expertise wasn't explicitly made to be a requirement, although one of the recommendations might have been suggestive. It probably would be more constructive to be specific with these recommendations on PDP WGs. Michael R. Graham:@Marika -- Best of all worlds, and reflecting the respective responsibilities, I would say "a task for the IRT, with input from staff" -- with a paranoid eye toward possible Monday Quarterback objections that since staff is primarily tasked with implementation it should not also take the lead in determining experts to review its work. (Apologies for tortured metaphors and paranoia . . .) Marika Konings:@Michael - it is not so much experts to review staff's work, but experts to work with staff to develop the implementation ;-) Cheryl Langdon-Orr:Karen that point on 'type of expertise' is important any "guidelines"created re "outside expertise" needs to be flexible enough Michael R. Graham:Awww . . . 2 expert classes! Karen Lentz:Agree with Cheryl - part of this is being clear on what the scope is so that you can get volunteers who want to do that as defined - and generating pride in the results of the group's work Chuck Gomes:+1 Karen Cheryl Langdon-Orr:solo true @karen Karen Lentz:Marika's point on lag time is a big challenge Michael R. Graham:Could we suggest any "benefits" participation in IRT might entitle participants to? Mary Wong:Yes, it's possible to terminate/suspend a PDP Amr Elsadr:Those all sound like pretty good reasons. Amr Elsadr:@Marika: Yes. That makes a lot of sense. I didn't mean that one that is already formed be shut down, but rather one that doesn't attract members to join it not really be created to begin with. Michael R. Graham:Thanks! Amr Elsadr:Thanks all. Bye. Cheryl Langdon-Orr:bye Attachment:
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