[gnso-ppsc-wg] Re: Approval of revision to enumerated task 1

["J. Scott Evans" <jscottevans@xxxxxxxxx>]

I did see Jonne's note, but I saw no support for it.  Was it posted to the full 
list.  The only communications I saw posted to the list were in support of 
Tim's proposed revision.

J. Scott

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From: Ken Bour <ken.bour@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: J. Scott Evans <jscottevans@xxxxxxxxx>
Cc: "Soininen, Jonne (NSN - FI/Espoo)" <jonne.soininen@xxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, March 19, 2009 6:22:12 AM
Subject: Approval of revision to enumerated task 1

 
J.
Scott and Jonne:
 
I’m
not sure if it was an objection, per se, but Jonne did submit alternative
language in an email on 4 March in which he raised a couple of points (Size and
Expertise) for consideration.   I added it to the WIKI (in Comments),
but there has not been any additional discussion.
 
I
am copying Jonne on this email to see if he is OK with Tim’s original
proposal for the purposes of approving it.   Jonne will not be on the
call today, so we won’t be able to entertain any additional discussion
about it.   
 
Jonne?
 
Ken
===
 
From
Jonne Soininen … 4 March (via Email to the WG Team list)
 
Hello everybody,
 
As I'm new to this group, I would like present myself. I
am Jonne Soininen and I work for Nokia Siemens Networks. I have been working in
the IETF for some time serving in different roles including document editor,
working group chair, and the past number of years as a member of IETF
Administrative Oversight Committee (IAOC). I have served as the chair of the
IAOC for the past year.
 
In addition to the IETF, I have been active in 3GPP,
ETSI, and OMA over the years, which have quite different history, culture, and
procedures. Anyways, I would believe that in spirit and philosophy ICANN is
most probably closer to the IETF than the others.
 
Then to the matter at hand:
 
1) Size: I would think that the general requirement for
the WGs is to be as open and as inclusive as possible. Keeping that in mind, I
wonder if the size of a WG would be a problem.
 
For instance, the WG that I'm responsible for in the IETF
has hundreds of participants. However, basically just 10-20 people are really
active. The others just are there for the show.
 
In addition, having a rule that doesn't put any quantity
to the size could certainly cause problems if enforced. Who says what is too
big?
 
2) Expertise: Expertise is really difficult to quantify,
and thus, would be really difficult to enforce either. You just cannot say to
anybody that they don't have the expertise to be part of the group - even if
they refuse to be constructive.
 
I would propose the following wording:
 
"Be open to anyone interest in joining, offering
their insights and expertise to contribute to WG work to reach its goals as
defined by the WG charter" (perhaps somebody can translate than from
Finglish to English)
 
That basically keeps the WG open, but adds the
possibility to say that if somebody is not constructive to reach the goals of
the WG would allow the chairman to point that out.
 
Cheers,
 
Jonne.
 
 
From:owner-gnso-ppsc-wg@xxxxxxxxx
[mailto:owner-gnso-ppsc-wg@xxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of J. Scott Evans
Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 8:11 PM
To: Working Group
Subject: [gnso-ppsc-wg] Approval of revision to enumerated task 1
 
 
Dear All:

We did not receive any objections to Tim Ruiz's suggested revision to first
enumerated task on the Wiki.  Therefore, I am asking ICANN Staff to update
this point as highlighted in my consensus call email of last week.  Also,
it looks like this Thursday is the best time for a call.  Glen should be
sending out particulars on the call soon.  We will only have a short call
this week because I have to give a speech at noon PDT.  That said, I think
45 minutes will allow us enough time to divide up task so that we can begin
working on a  Work Plan for adoption and posting on the Wiki.

Watch for more soon.

Thanks to Ken for all his hard work on the Wiki updates.  Kudos!!!!

J. Scott

 
j. scott evans | senior legal director, global brand &
trademark | Yahoo! Inc. | evansj@xxxxxxxxxxxxx | 408.349.1385