Re: [gnso-ppsc] Revised Language for 2 outstanding issues in Working Group Guidelines

[Avri Doria <avri@xxxxxxx>]

Dear Jeff,

I just do not remember a consensus call where everyone agreed.  A call with few 
members (how many PPSc members here on the call?) does not count as a consensus 
in my understanding of the PPSC requirements for full and active  consensus.  
So I am trying to understand whether proper procedure was followed or whether 
you have decided to just declare consensus.  If you are declaring it, then I am 
challenging you to prove it.  I believe it is critical that a committee 
responsible for defining policy and procedures follow its own policies and 
procedures meticulously .

a.


On 13 Dec 2010, at 10:10, Neuman, Jeff wrote:

> Yes.  We discussed this on the call on December 1st, reiterated it at the 
> Sunday meeting on December 5th, and then at the Council on the 8th and 
> everyone seemed in agreement.  If you would like to note your objection for 
> this going out to public comment, I would be happy to note that for the 
> Council.  If you do, however, I would like to know your rationale, so I may 
> let the Council know at the appropriate time.
> 
> Thanks. 
> 
> Jeffrey J. Neuman 
> Neustar, Inc. / Vice President, Law & Policy
> 
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-gnso-ppsc@xxxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-gnso-ppsc@xxxxxxxxx] On Behalf 
> Of Avri Doria
> Sent: Monday, December 13, 2010 9:27 AM
> To: gnso-ppsc@xxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: [gnso-ppsc] Revised Language for 2 outstanding issues in Working 
> Group Guidelines
> 
> 
> Do we have consensus on that?
> 
> a.
> 
> On 13 Dec 2010, at 09:20, Neuman, Jeff wrote:
> 
>> 
>> Avri,
>> 
>> Remember, we (the ppsc) are not sending this out for public comment, but we 
>> are recommending that the gnso send this out for public comment as there 
>> have been some changes to the report since it was last out for public 
>> comment (which was at the initial report stage). 
>> 
>> 
>> Jeffrey J. Neuman, Esq.
>> Vice President, Law & Policy
>> NeuStar, Inc.
>> Jeff.Neuman@xxxxxxxxxxx
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Avri Doria [mailto:avri@xxxxxxx]
>> Sent: Monday, December 13, 2010 09:16 AM
>> To: gnso-ppsc@xxxxxxxxx <gnso-ppsc@xxxxxxxxx>
>> Subject: Re: [gnso-ppsc] Revised Language for 2 outstanding issues in 
>> Working Group Guidelines
>> 
>> 
>> The council needs to approve sending things out for public comment?
>> Since when?
>> 
>> a.
>> 
>> On 13 Dec 2010, at 08:46, Neuman, Jeff wrote:
>> 
>>> Thanks.  
>>> 
>>> Marika/Margie - Can you all pull together the final version incorporating 
>>> all of this language and then I will call for a formal consensus call among 
>>> the PPSC for approval.  We will then draft a motion to propose to the GNSO 
>>> Council sending this out for public comment as we discussed.
>>> 
>>> Thanks everyone.
>>> 
>>> Jeffrey J. Neuman 
>>> Neustar, Inc. / Vice President, Law & Policy
>>> 
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>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: owner-gnso-ppsc@xxxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-gnso-ppsc@xxxxxxxxx] On 
>>> Behalf Of Avri Doria
>>> Sent: Thursday, December 09, 2010 7:31 PM
>>> To: gnso-ppsc@xxxxxxxxx
>>> Subject: Re: [gnso-ppsc] Revised Language for 2 outstanding issues in 
>>> Working Group Guidelines
>>> 
>>> 
>>> sure.
>>> a.
>>> 
>>> On 9 Dec 2010, at 18:32, J. Scott Evans wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I am fine with this.  Others?
>>>> 
>>>> J. Scott
>>>> 
>>>> j. scott evans - senior legal director, global brand and trademarks - 
>>>> Yahoo! Inc. - 408.349.1385 - jscottevans@xxxxxxxxx
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> From: Tim Ruiz <tim@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> To: jscottevans@xxxxxxxxx
>>>> Cc: marika.konings@xxxxxxxxx; gnso-ppsc@xxxxxxxxx
>>>> Sent: Thursday, December 9, 2010 10:53:16 AM
>>>> Subject: RE: [gnso-ppsc] Revised Language for 2 outstanding issues in 
>>>> Working Group Guidelines
>>>> 
>>>> J. Scott,
>>>> 
>>>> As I said, the second revised section looks fine to me, but I would like
>>>> to suggest rewording the first on to something like the following:
>>>> 
>>>> "Based upon the WG's needs, the Chair may direct that WG participants do
>>>> not have to have their name explicitly associated with any Full
>>>> Consensus or Consensus view/position. However, in all other cases and
>>>> in those cases where a group member represents the minority viewpoint,
>>>> their name must be explicitly linked, especially in those cases where
>>>> polls where taken."
>>>> 
>>>> I believe it doesn't change the intent but makes it more explicit.
>>>> 
>>>> Tim
>>>> 
>>>>> -------- Original Message --------
>>>>> Subject: [gnso-ppsc] Revised Language for 2 outstanding issues in
>>>>> Working Group Guidelines
>>>>> From: "J. Scott Evans" 
>>>>> Date: Wed, December 08, 2010 3:59 pm
>>>>> To: PPSC 
>>>>> Cc: Marika Konings 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Dear All:
>>>>> 
>>>>> I apologize for the delay in getting this back to you.  I have attached a 
>>>>> Word document containing my suggested revisions to the 2 sections we 
>>>>> discussed in our call on December 1, 2010.  Please let me have your 
>>>>> feedback.
>>>>> 
>>>>> J. Scott
>>>>> 
>>>>> j. scott evans - senior legal director, global brand and trademarks - 
>>>>> Yahoo! Inc. - 408.349.1385 - jscottevans@xxxxxxxxx
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