RE: [gnso-raa-dt] Charter of rights - "wish list"

["Mike Rodenbaugh" <icann@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

We would go faster taking an integrated approach with one group of people,
rather than two tracks with two different groups addressing similar if not
identical issues.

-Mike

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From: owner-gnso-raa-dt@xxxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-gnso-raa-dt@xxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Tim Ruiz
Sent: Monday, August 03, 2009 3:55 PM
To: gnso-raa-dt@xxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: [gnso-raa-dt] Charter of rights - "wish list"


So when in 2011 do you plan to have it done?

Tim

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Subject: RE: [gnso-raa-dt] Charter of rights - "wish list"
From: "Mike Rodenbaugh" <icann@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Mon, August 03, 2009 5:34 pm
To: <gnso-raa-dt@xxxxxxxxx>


Any charter based on existing rights and responsibilities should include
those that the RAA-WG, ALAC and Council decide they should include. The
so-called "wish list" is mostly aiming to clarify existing rights and
responsibilities, which have been misinterpreted, ignored and/or abused.
It
would be shortsighted and indeed impossible to agree to text of a charter
documenting them, before we have clarified what they are.

-Mike

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-gnso-raa-dt@xxxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-gnso-raa-dt@xxxxxxxxx]
On
Behalf Of Tim Ruiz
Sent: Monday, August 03, 2009 2:52 PM
To: Alan Greenberg
Cc: gnso-raa-dt@xxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: [gnso-raa-dt] Charter of rights - "wish list"


Alan, that is why these efforts should be separate. Creating a postable
charter based on existing rights/responsibilities could be a relatively
quick endeavor. Discussions of *wish lists* is another matter entirely.

The discussion on changes to the RAA that various parties would like to see
should be an effort of its own. If there is a new registrant right or
responsibility someone would like to see, or one that someone would like to
change, it should be brought up in the RAA discussion group. But as I
suggested, I think there should be a limited number of stakeholder
*representatives* involved in this group who would bring such items to the
table.


Tim

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Subject: [gnso-raa-dt] Charter of rights - "wish list"
From: Alan Greenberg <alan.greenberg@xxxxxxxxx>
Date: Mon, August 03, 2009 3:10 pm
To: gnso-raa-dt@xxxxxxxxx


I have some trouble understanding how we will arrive at the wish-list part
of the charter development.

Is this just going to be the registrant/users who develop it, or will this
need to be done in conjunction with the registrars?

If the latter, it sounds like it is replicating work that will need to be
done by the future RAA working group (or whatever mechanism is used), and it
also pre-supposes that the registrars are agreeing to such future rights in
advance of the actual discussion/negotiation.

Alan