Re: [gnso-rap-dt] How AT&T handles copyright abuse complaints

[Rod Rasmussen <rod.rasmussen@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Indeed, and of course, they suspend not only hosting and ISP accounts  
without court orders, but phone numbers too - they do it at our  
request all the time for criminal activities like phishing, phone- 
based phishing and malware distribution (so that second statement must  
be strictly referring to trademark issues).  Different reactions and  
policies for different levels of direct harm, immediacy of the issue,  
potential complicit liability from inaction, likelihood that they  
would get paid for services likely bought using fraudulent/stolen  
credentials, and potential for victims to get recompense in the end.   
That's not too surprising, and a model that most large providers use  
in one way or another - everyone has a formula, and that's appropriate  
in my opinion.  The calculation of that formula and external forces  
and rules shaping it are where the fun and interesting discussions  
occur!
Best,

Rod

Rod Rasmussen
President and CTO
Internet Identity

On Mar 26, 2009, at 7:08 AM, George Kirikos wrote:

> Hi folks,
>
> There was an interesting article in CNET yesterday, in regards to how
> AT&T handles copyright complaints as an ISP:
>
> http://news.cnet.com/8301-1023_3-10204514-93.html
>
> ""AT&T is not going to suspend or terminate anyone's policy without a
> court order."
>
> "We're not a finder of fact and under no circumstances would we ever
> suspend or terminate service based on an allegation from a third
> party."
>
> "What we do is send notices and keep track of violations and IP
> addresses," Cicconi said. "It's our view that any stronger action has
> got to rest with the copyright owner...That's what the courts are
> there for."
>
> Sincerely,
>
> George Kirikos
> http://www.leap.com/