RE: [gnso-reg-sgc] Whois Sub Group C - matrix for discussion andadditions

[jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]

Maria and all sgc members,

I believe my response was focused as was Ross'es.

Please try to remember ICANN is a public service non profit
corporation and as such has a direct responsibility to serve
the best public interest as those members of the public whom
are participants indicate is in their best interest.  ICANN
is not, cannnot be, and never has been, an entity independant of
public consideration and or dirction.




-----Original Message-----
>From: Maria Farrell <maria.farrell@xxxxxxxxx>
>Sent: May 9, 2007 5:26 AM
>To: 'Jeff Williams' <jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>, gnso-reg-sgc@xxxxxxxxx
>Subject: RE: [gnso-reg-sgc] Whois Sub Group C - matrix for discussion 
>andadditions
>
>Jeff,
>
>It is the ICANN policy staff's responsibility to ensure this working group
>does its work in a focused way, and in a manner which is useful and
>productive for ICANN as a whole.  
>
>Large groups can only work productively if they use mutually agreed
>procedures and accept agreed outcomes to allow them to continue moving
>forward. This is perfect common sense and beyond discussion. 
>
>Please keep your messages to this list focused on the substantive work. 
>
>Thank you, Maria
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: owner-gnso-reg-sgc@xxxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-gnso-reg-sgc@xxxxxxxxx] On
>Behalf Of Jeff Williams
>Sent: Wednesday, May 09, 2007 6:33 AM
>To: gnso-reg-sgc@xxxxxxxxx
>Subject: Re: [gnso-reg-sgc] Whois Sub Group C - matrix for discussion
>andadditions
>
>Ross and all sgc members,
>
>  I agree with Ross's concern here.  I also did not have the impression in
>which Maria is espousing.  Btw, I trimmed the CC list as Maria has been very
>adamant with me off-line regarding such for all sub groups.
>
>  Maria, if you will pardon me, it is becoming obvious you are becoming
>overly enamored with overly aggressive procedural masinations.  No offense
>intended...
>
>Ross Rader wrote:
>
>> Maria Farrell wrote:
>> > Dear all,
>> >
>> > The matrix I sent was agreed by this sub group last week. The group 
>> > agreed - and its meeting summary explicitly records this - to have 
>> > me create a matrix using the criteria agreed. If anyone has an issue 
>> > with that, then they should raise it when the sub group meets again
>tomorrow.
>>
>> Perhaps I misunderstood the outcomes of that call then. I left the 
>> telecon under the impression that the issue was still a matter for 
>> future consideration and discussion and was not nearly as closed as 
>> you've implied. While it has some merit from an academic perspective, 
>> I certainly do not believe that anything this complex is nearly 
>> appropriate given the policy environment that we work in. Having only 
>> received an example of this matrix, I would have a hard time were this 
>> matter considered closed from a task perspective.
>>
>> I will bring this up tomorrow.
>>
>> Also, I asked a question of scope last week that I haven't heard 
>> anything on. Will we have an answer back for tomorrow's call?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> -ross
>
>Regards,
>--
>Jeffrey A. Williams
>Spokesman for INEGroup LLA. - (Over 134k members/stakeholders strong!)
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>"If the probability be called P; the injury, L; and the burden, B; liability
>depends upon whether B is less than L multiplied by
>P: i.e., whether B is less than PL."
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Regards,
--
Jeffrey A. Williams
Spokesman for INEGroup LLA. - (Over 134k members/stakeholders strong!)
"Obedience of the law is the greatest freedom" -
   Abraham Lincoln

"Credit should go with the performance of duty and not with what is very
often the accident of glory" - Theodore Roosevelt

"If the probability be called P; the injury, L; and the burden, B; liability
depends upon whether B is less than L multiplied by
P: i.e., whether B is less than PL."
United States v. Carroll Towing  (159 F.2d 169 [2d Cir. 1947]
===============================================================
Updated 1/26/04
CSO/DIR. Internet Network Eng. SR. Eng. Network data security IDNS. div. of
Information Network Eng.  INEG. INC.
ABA member in good standing member ID 01257402 E-Mail jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Registered Email addr with the USPS Contact Number: 214-244-4827