RE: [gnso-restruc-dt] object to proposal to change name of Non-Contracting Parties House

[Tim Ruiz <tim@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

Tony, how do the current names provide a negative
perception?


Tim
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> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject: RE: [gnso-restruc-dt] object to proposal to change name of
> Non-Contracting Parties House
> From: "Tony Holmes" <tonyarholmes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Date: Tue, May 05, 2009 4:42 pm
> To: "'Robin Gross'" <robin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>, <Gnso-restruc-dt@xxxxxxxxx>
> Cc: "'Carlos Affonso Pereira de Souza'" <Carlos.Souza@xxxxxx>,       
> "'William Drake'" <william.drake@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>,        "'Mary
> Wong'" <mwong@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> 
> 
>    Robin/All
> 
>    There may be a lack of
>    understanding here, so please
>    let me try and clarify the
>    background to this request.
>    This request was made as ISPs
>    are NOT `users' and the
>    proposed term is a much more
>    accurate reflection of the
>    make up of that house. The
>    term `providers was initially
>    widely used in the past but
>    dropped once it became clear
>    (particularly to the Board)
>    that ISPs were indeed
>    `providers' as much as other
>    parties.
> 
>    Splitting the GNSO down the
>    middle between contracted and
>    non contracted parties is a
>    sub division that does provide
>    a negative perception to the
>    outside world and that divide
>    shouldn't be seen as the basis
>    for all policy development.
> 
>    Robin - I hope that having
>    provided that information the
>    NCUC will reconsider there
>    stance on this.
> 
>    Regards
> 
>    Tony
>    ______________________________
>    From:
>    owner-gnso-restruc-dt@xxxxxxxx
>    g
>    [mailto:owner-gnso-restruc-dt@
>    icann.org] On Behalf Of Robin
>    Gross
>    Sent: 05 May 2009 18:16
>    To: Gnso-restruc-dt@xxxxxxxxx
>    Cc: Carlos Affonso Pereira de
>    Souza; William Drake; Mary
>    Wong
>    Subject: [gnso-restruc-dt]
>    object to proposal to change
>    name of Non-Contracting
>    Parties House
> 
>    One point on today's draft
>    document:
>    After internal discussion,
>    NCUC objects to Philip's
>    proposal to change the name of
>    the Non-Contracting Parties
>    House to the "Users and
>    Providers" House and we prefer
>    to leave it as
>    "Non-Contracting Parties"
>    House since it is better
>    alignment with the other
>    house, the "Contracting
>    Parties House". Also adding on
>    "providers" is just too
>    ambiguous and will likely lead
>    to confusion as to what kind
>    of providers. Registrars are a
>    "provider" of sorts for
>    example. So NCUC does not
>    accept the proposed name
>    change of the house.
> 
>    Thanks,
>    Robin
> 
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>    Robin Gross, Executive
>    Director
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>    Francisco, CA 94117 USA
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