[gnso-review-dt] Attendance, AC Chat & Mp3 for GNSO Review WG call on 15 November 2016 at 14:00 UTC

[Michelle DeSmyter <michelle.desmyter@xxxxxxxxx>]

Dear all,

Please find attendance and mp3 along with AC chat below for the GNSO Review 
call held on Tuesday, 15 November 2016 at 14:00 UTC.

MP3: 
http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-review-15nov16-en.mp3<http://audio.icann.org/gnso/gnso-review-15nov16-en.mp3[mailer.samanage.com]>

Attendance:
Amr Elsadr
Avri Doria
Heath Dixon
Jen Wolfe
Pascal Bekono
Rafik Dammak
Sara Bockey

Apologies:
Wolf Ulrich-Knoben
Lawrence Olawale-Roberts

Staff:
Lars Hoffmann
Marika Konings
Julie Hedlund

Michelle DeSmyter

Thanks!
Michelle



AC Chat :
Michelle DeSmyter:Dear all, Welcome to the GNSO Review Working Group call on 
Tuesday, 15, November 2016 14:00 UTC.
  Michelle DeSmyter:Agenda page: 
https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__community.icann.org_x_MiS4Aw&d=DgICaQ&c=FmY1u3PJp6wrcrwll3mSVzgfkbPSS6sJms7xcl4I5cM&r=8_WhWIPqsLT6TmF1Zmyci866vcPSFO4VShFqESGe_5iHWGlBLwwwehFBfjrsjWv9&m=K8nsddsgh2UUKt6hBCtyp_hwru8jn47UQtZ70dCZWPE&s=SWFH6TT9CIxz3CJkGe7-E8b2Kap3rZAGGrIANYH1SVg&e=
  Heath Dixon:Good morning.
  Michelle DeSmyter:Hi there, welcome!!
  Pascal Bekono:Good afternoon dear all
  Jen Wolfe:Hello everyone!
  Pascal Bekono:Hi Jen
  avri doria:it would be painful for me - until 0030 with my next call at 0400
  Julie Hedlund:Thanks Avri -- noted!
  Heath Dixon:I have to walk my kids to the bus, so I need to drop at the top 
of the hour.  Sorry.
  Julie Hedlund:Thanks Heath.  Noted also.
  Julie Hedlund:All -- The redline in the document are some additional changes 
suggested by staff.
  Marika Konings:you may also want to include something in relation to regular 
reporting / updating to the GNSO Council?
  Marika Konings:every ICANN meeting?
  Marika Konings:it could be in the form of a status report that is provided to 
the GNSO
  Marika Konings:and if need be a discussion could be scheduled at an ICANN 
meeting
  Heath Dixon:I think that's a good timeframe.
  Heath Dixon:It should be at the GNSO on the agenda.
  Marika Konings:The idea would be to first get an overview of what exists to 
be able to then determine what is needed, also factoring in what the costs 
would be and how this are expected to be covered (priority may need to be given 
or cost-benefit analysis conducted).
  Marika Konings:a first step might be to review ongoing efforts in relation to 
the same subject to determine whether a separate WG is needed?
  Rafik:linking the creation of new WG to the outcome of diversity subgroup 
outcome?
  Marika Konings:is it my line or Avri sounds like an alien?
  Rafik:having hard time to hear...
  Julie Hedlund:@Avri: Your microphone is very distorted.
  Julie Hedlund:Could you type in the chat?
  Amr Elsadr:@Marika: Alien isn't what I would have gone for..., but not just 
your line. :)
  Sara Bockey:Very strange distortion
  Marika Konings:sounded like one of those voices you get in sci fi movies :-)
  Amr Elsadr:@Marika: Yup. :)
  Marika Konings:so not sure if that makes it an alien or the captain of the 
ship :-)
  avri doria:1. how do we define effectiveness. 2. we are not really doing this 
and i think that wee are wiggling out of actually doing it with the way this is 
being 'done'
  Marika Konings:@Avri - I think most PDP WGs are currently applying rotation 
to their regular meetings?
  avri doria:i.e. we alwasy favor europe and the Us in terms of timings.  this 
is not fair and is not in keeping with the recommendation.
  Rafik:@Marika I think the risk is that "efectiveness" become self-fulfiling, 
starting with times unfriendly for folks in some timeoznes , then it will 
exclude them in facto and so only those in friendly timezones and so on
  avri doria:(and the fact that i am in Seoul at the moment does not prejudice 
my opinion :)
  Amr Elsadr:Good rewording on this recommendation.
  Marika Konings:@Rafik - agree and it is a real challenge as the different PDP 
WGs rotate dutifully but we definitely see less participation during the 
timezone that is less convenient for the majority. However, based on that 
input, the WG may be able to review / discuss what measures could be taken to 
counter that trend?
  avri doria:i lost audio.
  avri doria:will try to get it back.  but now that Amr is there, and he is 
primary for NCSg, my being here matters less.
  Amr Elsadr:I'm actually not primary for the NCSG, Avri. Just a participant in 
this group, and checking in/observing since I haven't been attending calls.
  Heath Dixon:Agreed.
  Sara Bockey:can you scroll down so I can see the timeline better
  Heath Dixon:We can always finish early if we're making good progress.
  Sara Bockey:no...move it up
  Julie Hedlund:@Jen: Got it!
  Sara Bockey:I agree that more time is needed for the High Priority
  avri doria:rebooted, so am back.
  Marika Konings:the Board timeline for approval may extend beyond the New Year
  avri doria:apologies Amr and Rafik.  it is Rafik that iis the NCSG primary.
  Julie Hedlund:@All: I will circulate the document today.
  Marika Konings:as the Board committee will look at it first before it goes to 
the Board
  Rafik:the schedule still up for motion ot gnso ?
  avri doria:who is making the motion, Rafik?
  avri doria:and Rafik can second if he wishes
  Julie Hedlund:Indeed!
  Rafik:thanks :)
  avri doria:bye and happy new year
  Amr Elsadr:Thanks all. Bye.
  Julie Hedlund:Thank you everyone and happy holidays!
  Pascal Bekono:thanks, bye