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Re: [gnso-thickwhois-dt] Comments on the Thick Whois PDP Draft Charter

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  • Subject: Re: [gnso-thickwhois-dt] Comments on the Thick Whois PDP Draft Charter
  • From: Frédéric Guillemaut <fg@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2012 11:39:52 +0200

Dear All,

This is my first participation in a drafting team, so please forgive me if I missed a point.

The Charter says a lot on Thick Whois.
And it can refer to the final report.

However, I do not see any accurate description of what a thick whois really is, and what the minimum standards are expected to be (I guess some registries might have a few differences).

Is defining Thick Whois specs a mission of the Working Group ?
Or doez the drafting team have ot draw guidelines on that matter as well ?

Best regards


Le 12/09/2012 08:56, Marika Konings a écrit :
In response to comment 2, the Final Issue Report contains further
details on each of these items, hence the 'as detailed in the Final
Issue Report' reference. However, if the DT feels it would be helpful to
have this detail included in the charter itself, I'm happy to update it
by importing the descriptions in the Issue Report which the DT can then
further modify as desired.

With best regards,


From: <Drazek>, Keith <kdrazek@xxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:kdrazek@xxxxxxxxxxxx>>
Date: Wednesday 12 September 2012 01:10
To: "Gnso-thickwhois-dt@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:Gnso-thickwhois-dt@xxxxxxxxx>"
<Gnso-thickwhois-dt@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:Gnso-thickwhois-dt@xxxxxxxxx>>
Subject: [gnso-thickwhois-dt] Comments on the Thick Whois PDP Draft Charter

Hi everyone,

Thanks to Marika for the great work kicking off the draft charter.

A few suggested edits:

1. I recommend amending the introductory sentence in Section 2, Mission
& Scope from, “The PDP Working Group is tasked to provide the GNSO
Council with a recommendation(s) on whether there should be a
requirement for ‘thick’ Whois for all gTLD Registries” to “The PDP
Working Group is tasked to provide the GNSO Council with a
recommendation(s) on the consistent use of ‘thick’ Whois by all gTLD
Registries.”  The original wording appears to be focused on com and net
only, where “the consistent use of thick Whois for all gTLD registries”
allows for any future developments or modifications affecting all
implementers of thick Whois and ensures that users of thick Whois can
rely on a standard or consistent experience. In other words, just
requiring the _use_ of ‘thick Whois’ is insufficient; the WG should be
making a recommendation concerning the _consistent use_ of thick Whois
among all registry operators.  This also ensures the PDP WG’s eventual
policy recommendation addresses the consistent use of thick Whois for
all registries as a whole, and does not inappropriately single out one
registry operator. Note that “consistent use” doesn’t preclude
variations in the model as required by sponsored TLDs, etc.

2. The list of bulleted items looks very comprehensive, but I recommend
the Drafting Team spend some time adding specificity to the list. The
more specific we are in the charter, the better off we’ll be in
determining whether the WG is successful in adequately addressing the
issues, and knowing when each item is completed. I suggest that at least
a sentence be added to each item in the list to provide a fuller
explanation to make the charter clearer.  Ideally, it would be helpful
for each item to also have a list of questions to be answered; this
would provide a more precise guide for the work to be done and would
make it easier to measure completion.  The list itself is good, but each
bullet should be expanded upon.

Here’s an example:

For the bullet: “Impact on privacy and data protection, including
consideration of possible cross border transfers of registrant data” it
will be important that the WG answer questions like these:

·Would registries and/or registrars be required to obtain consents from
new and existing registrants before processing transfers?

·Would registries and/or registrars be required to abide by different
privacy and data protection laws in different jurisdictions?

·How substantial are the compliance issues for registries and/or
registrars with regard to varying privacy and data protection laws?

Note that these questions are applicable to both existing registries and
new registries because all registries will have to deal with transfers
of domains and transfers of data”

I look forward to discussing further on Thursday and welcome any comments.

Thanks and regards,



*Keith Drazek*
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