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Re: [gnso-vi-feb10] Law, Policing and Punishment aka compliance proposal, aka WIP draft collection

  • To: Milton L Mueller <mueller@xxxxxxx>
  • Subject: Re: [gnso-vi-feb10] Law, Policing and Punishment aka compliance proposal, aka WIP draft collection
  • From: Volker Greimann - Key-Systems GmbH <vgreimann@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 23 Jun 2010 15:53:10 +0200


Milton,

I agree completely and I was not trying to propose this and be over with it. I was proposing a skeleton that we can use to form a body of law that will have to be enforced in turn. However listening to many concerned voiced from the RACK and other proposals, many only demand the percentage solution because they do not believe in ICANN to enforce the rules we draw up. If we keep the ICANN board to its word that they will implement what we design, we have gained a lot toward forming an open and innovative consensus without unreasonable limitations on business models.

I reject your demand to "give me the rules" and instead invite you to contribute your thoughts under the assumption that compliance performance will be in place.

I would hope our consensus will in the end be similar to the open registrar proposal, fleshed out to take care of every eventuality, combined with strong enforcement and a good and just system of penalties.

I agree with your comment of "first things first". Let us discuss what rules will be necessary to combat the harms that are related to VI/CO.

Volker Greimann
Huh? Of course compliance is essential. But (and I don't mean to sound 
contrarian) what matters to me is what people are being forced to comply with. 
Give me rules that protect consumers while facilitating open entry and business 
model innovation - then talk about how to make people comply with those rules. 
First things first.
--MM

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From: owner-gnso-vi-feb10@xxxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-gnso-vi-
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Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2010 4:01 PM
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Subject: [gnso-vi-feb10] Law, Policing and Punishment aka compliance
proposal, aka WIP draft collection


Maybe we can try to approach the issue another way, by focussing on the
one issue most of us can agree upon: Compliance.

Most of us can from what I see from discussions over the previous days
with everyone I had the opportunity to steal a little time from, we so
far agree that he most important issue is compliance and enforcement. We
need a strong and well defined body of law (contract), a competent
police force (compliance control team) and a tiered penalty system. Once
we can agree on terms of such a system ownership or control percentages
will become irrelevant. For many proponents, the topic of compliance
seems to be the driving motive behind their desire to implement control
limits even though many of the harms are entirely unrelated to VI and CO
and can just as likely occur in scenarios of 0 % CO/VI.

I will only list the basic premise we all add to and therefore clearly
mark the following as:


WORK IN PROGRESS


THE LAW:

To draw up the law, a codex of rules that applies to every contracted
partner, from registry to RSP we first need to clearly define the harms
we intend to prevent and the behavior patterns we believe to be
undesirable. Extrapolating from these, our lawyer team-members, myself
included, can adapt the contractual body to combat the harms more
effectively than any ownership limitation could.

Pilfering shamelessly from the "back-room proposal", a separate contract
of RSPs will have to be put in place clearly defining the roles and
obligations of such service providers, as all parties need to be
contractually bound by ICANN to allow policing.

Rather than focussing on separation percentages, let us focus in the
text of the law on what we want to achieve/prevent and cast that into a
text of rules. The contracts will of course require an inclusion option
to allow revision after a reasonable time of review to either reduce or
increase requirements.

As not all registries are created equally, we may want to considered a
tiered system of application requirements, based on market power of the
created or owning entity, as well as the designated purpose of the TLDS.
For example, a SRSU TLD will need less stringent initial requirements
than other x-owned entities.


POLICE FORCE:

 From our meetings I have gathered that many believe that establishing
an effective police force is the biggest problem. ICANN enforcement
today is underfunded and understaffed. So we need to make sure that we
hold Rod to his words given in this weeks introductory speech. Whatever
we design, ICANN must put in place (and finance). The funds are there,
but we will need to convince the board that they will have to dip into
the sacred fund to put a compliance enforcement team worthy of its name
in place. I agree with pessimists that will claim such a suggestion is
impossible to get, but hearing various comments from the board and
having the strong impression that ICANN staff can be persuaded that the
exchange of cash for success of the program is possible, we need to
hammer staff in the coming days with the unified demand of this WG: set
aside some of the money currently sitting in the bank for a strong and
competent enforcement team. This is heavy-duty lobbying, but united we
can, nay, must do it.

As we all think that enforcement is lacking this needs to be done in
either case, no matter what proposal you favor.


PENALTIES:

As placeholder for further discussion, I am basing the penalty system on
criminal justice systems:

Tier 0: Notice and warning: Small fine for minor violation

Tier 1: Fiscal penalty: Minor violations not fixed after notice period
carrying a pecuniary penalty substantial enough to discourage active
intent by nullifying all ill-gotten gains.

Tier 2: Doing Time: Repeated minor violations or more substantial
violations reducing the available contingent for registrations to a
percentage of the average over the past 12 months

Tier 3: Hard time: Temporary suspension of registration activity,
possibility of cancellation of contract for RSP, prohibition of carrying
TLD for registrar in case of severe breach of contract.

Tier 4: Death penalty: Permanent Suspension of entity from service,
redelegation of all TLDs under management/deaccreditation for active
intentional misconduct, repeated major breach of contract.

Other penalties may include but are not limited to obligatory audits,
higher fees and more.

I invite everyone to review these ideas, and consider what to improve,
change, adapt or reject (and why). I welcome all constructive criticism
unless you are only interested in protecting your own market share by
disallowing competition.


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