RE: [gnso-vi-feb10] SRSU

["Roberto Gaetano" <roberto@xxxxxxxxx>]

My personal opinion is that sTLDs are indeed a subset of gTLDs, because
historically the distinction has been only between ccTLDs (based on
ISO-3166) and gTLDs (everything else).
Things might well change in the future, also for the dilemma of how to
characterize non-ASCII-TLDs. The point is not trivial, as there is no
equivalent of the ISO-3166 table for IDNs.
Back to SRSU, I think that TLDs like .aero, .post, .museum, are pretty close
to this model. If my memory is not completely gone, .aero (originally .air)
and .museum were part of the 2000 run, where no distinction was made yet
between sTLDs and others, while .post was rejected in 2000, but had a second
chance in the sTLD round.
So, you are right, I prefer in this case to talk about "TLD" and not "gTLD",
but if forced to qualify my statement, I go for SRSU being within the gTLD
family (as the only other family in the ASCII world is ccTLD).
And, of course, the rest of the world is coming soon to ruin the perfect
mathematical model we have created, as for IDNs this distinction might be
blurred to say the least.
Incidentally, let me play again that broken record that sounds like the
rules we are proposing have to work in the non-ASCII world as well.
 
Funny, it brings me back to my old days of student and researcher in Maths,
when discussing non-euclidean geometries...;>)
It will be interesting to see how we, culturally raised in an euclidean
ASCII space, deal with riemannian IDN spaces.
 
Cheers,
Roberto
 


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From: owner-gnso-vi-feb10@xxxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-gnso-vi-feb10@xxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Sébastien Bachollet
Sent: Thursday, 01 July 2010 23:15
To: Gnso-vi-feb10@xxxxxxxxx
Cc: 'Roberto Gaetano'
Subject: RE: [gnso-vi-feb10] SRSU



I try to look at the ICANN glossary: gTLD

http://www.icann.org/en/general/glossary.htm#G

gTLD - Generic Top Level Domain

Most TLDs with three or more characters are referred to as "generic" TLDs,
or "gTLDs". They can be subdivided into two types, "sponsored" TLDs (sTLDs)
and "unsponsored TLDs (uTLDs), as described in more detail below.

In the 1980s, seven gTLDs (.com, .edu, .gov, .int, .mil, .net, and .org)
were created. Domain names may be registered in three of these (.com, .net,
and .org) without restriction; the other four have limited purposes.

Over the next twelve years, various discussions occurred concerning
additional gTLDs, leading to the selection in November 2000 of seven new
TLDs for introduction. These were introduced in 2001 and 2002. Four of the
new TLDs (.biz, .info, .name, and .pro) are unsponsored. The other three new
TLDs (.aero, .coop, and .museum) are sponsored.

Generally speaking, an unsponsored TLD operates under policies established
by the global Internet community directly through the ICANN process, while a
sponsored TLD is a specialized TLD that has a sponsor representing the
narrower community that is most affected by the TLD. The sponsor thus
carries out delegated policy-formulation responsibilities over many matters
concerning the TLD.

A Sponsor is an organization to which is delegated some defined ongoing
policy-formulation authority regarding the manner in which a particular
sponsored TLD is operated. The sponsored TLD has a Charter, which defines
the purpose for which the sponsored TLD has been created and will be
operated. The Sponsor is responsible for developing policies on the
delegated topics so that the TLD is operated for the benefit of a defined
group of stakeholders, known as the Sponsored TLD Community, that are most
directly interested in the operation of the TLD. The Sponsor also is
responsible for selecting the registry operator and to varying degrees for
establishing the roles played by registrars and their relationship with the
registry operator. The Sponsor must exercise its delegated authority
according to fairness standards and in a manner that is representative of
the Sponsored TLD Community.

Is SRSU fall into that definition?

For my point of view a gTLD must be open to users/customers.

A closed TLD is not a gTLD (and I see that you didn?t use g in your mail) 

And we are talking about  New gTLD Draft Applicant Guidebook, Version 4
Available for Public Comment

 

All the best

Sébastien Bachollet

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De : owner-gnso-vi-feb10@xxxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-gnso-vi-feb10@xxxxxxxxx] De
la part de Roberto Gaetano
Envoyé : jeudi 1 juillet 2010 20:40
À : Gnso-vi-feb10@xxxxxxxxx
Objet : [gnso-vi-feb10] SRSU

 

The theme is the following: 
Under which circumstances would people feel safe in allowing vertical
integration for a TLD that has a single registry and a single user (the
typical case being a "brand" TLD, for internal use only)?

Let me start. 

*       There should not be "sales" of SLDs, the names under the TLD are
distributed internally based on declared criteria. 

*       There is no "secondary market", i.e. a name cannot be "passed" to
another beneficiary. Actually, the name remains always under full control of
the registry. 

 

The point is that if a registry does fulfill these requirements, they will
be granted an exception, and will be allowed to operate without giving equal
access to all registrars.

There might be interesting questions, like: 

*       Will they be allowed to use the services of one registrar, selected
by them, or not? 

 

Cheers, 
Roberto