RE: [gnso-vi-feb10] Board Resolution 2010.11.05.20
- To: <Gnso-vi-feb10@xxxxxxxxx>
- Subject: RE: [gnso-vi-feb10] Board Resolution 2010.11.05.20
- From: "Michael D. Palage" <michael@xxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2010 10:30:24 -0500
Perhaps in the spirit of the AoC - "accountable oversight"
From: owner-gnso-vi-feb10@xxxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-gnso-vi-feb10@xxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Milton L Mueller
Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2010 10:10 AM
To: Antony Van Couvering
Cc: Ron Andruff; Gnso-vi-feb10@xxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: [gnso-vi-feb10] Board Resolution 2010.11.05.20
I mean no lawful oversight.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Antony Van Couvering [mailto:avc@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Tuesday, November 16, 2010 7:13 PM
> To: Milton L Mueller
> Cc: Ron Andruff; Gnso-vi-feb10@xxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: [gnso-vi-feb10] Board Resolution 2010.11.05.20
> I can hardly agree that ICANN has no government oversight. It has
> rather too much IMO.
> Sent from my handheld.
> On Nov 16, 2010, at 12:22, Milton L Mueller <mueller@xxxxxxx> wrote:
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> about ICANN's adhesion contract. JJ and team have developed an AGB
> >> solely serves the interests of ICANN by off-loading any and all
> >> liability and responsibility to applicants alone.
> > A rare event: I agree heartily with Mr Andruff.
> > I'd also like to point out to Roberto that while his comments are
> sensible enough in their own right (if a market regulator is needed and
> there is no consensus among the interest groups involved, some decision
> has to be made by the board by default) - we also need to acknowledge
> the fact that this is not the model ICANN was supposed to be based on.
> And Palage's quotation of Dyson in 1999 just clinches that argument in a
> beautiful way. (It's not the only quotation from Dyson that looks pretty
> foolish in retrospect, but that's off topic for sure).
> > Now, as liability is dumped on registry applicants due to ICANN's
> corporate "risk mitigation" strategy, and staff wants to outsource the
> MAPO censorship of domain names for similar reasons, we begin to get a
> better idea of what kind of a beast was created in 1998 and what it
> means for the internet. A private corp with no membership, no government
> oversight, no global democratic legislature making laws to guide it,
> making regulatory decisions based in no small part on its own
> organizational self-interest. If you haven't read this yet, you might
> want to take a look:
> > http://internetgovernance.org/pdf/ICANNInc.pdf
> > --MM