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RE: [gnso-whois-study] RE: Aug 5 Meeting Recap
- To: "Steve DelBianco" <sdelbianco@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Subject: RE: [gnso-whois-study] RE: Aug 5 Meeting Recap
- From: "James M. Bladel" <jbladel@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2008 13:01:59 -0700
<html><body><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><font size="2"><span
style="font-family: verdana,geneva;">Steve:<br><br>I am not sure that this is
the case.<br><br>If we assume that the GAC is aware of the Whois data accuracy
element of ICANN's Registrar Compliance program, then this omission may be a
deliberate effort to put some boundaries on the question. In both cases
we would be speculating on their intentions and forehand knowledge, so my
inclination is to avoid inserting additional language.<br><br>But, if I'm all
alone on this, I will yield to the consensus of the
group....<br><br>Thanks--<br><br>J.<br></span></font></span><br>
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Subject: RE: [gnso-whois-study] RE: Aug 5 Meeting Recap<br>
From: "Steve DelBianco" <sdelbianco@xxxxxxxxxxxxx><br>
Date: Mon, August 11, 2008 2:22 pm<br>
To: "James M. Bladel" <jbladel@xxxxxxxxxxx><br>
Cc: <gnso-whois-study@xxxxxxxxx>, "Gomes,Chuck"
<cgomes@xxxxxxxxxxxx>, <br>
"Liz Gasster" <liz.gasster@xxxxxxxxx><br>
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</style> <div class="Section1"> <div><span style="font-size: 11pt;
font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73,
125);">I see that “reported”, although I think the GAC suspects that a
registrar who accepts obviously fraudulent (i.e. false) registration info
(e.g. Mickey Mouse) is also failing to actively correct the info when they
receive a report of inaccurate WHOIS data. None of the other GAC
questions asks about how registrars are responding to reports of inaccuracy, so
this might be the one place we can insert the word “reported”.
<o:p></o:p></span></div> <div><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family:
"Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73,
125);"><o:p> </o:p></span></div> <div><span style="font-size: 11pt;
font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73,
125);">Having said that, I would be glad to go with ‘detected”.
Just don’t want to miss the chance to suggest that the GAC cares about error
correction, too.<o:p></o:p></span></div> <div><span style="font-size: 11pt;
font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73,
125);"><o:p> </o:p></span></div> <div><span style="font-size: 11pt;
font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73,
125);">--Steve<o:p></o:p></span></div> <div><span style="font-size: 11pt;
font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73,
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<div><b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family:
"Tahoma","sans-serif";">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family:
"Tahoma","sans-serif";"> James M. Bladel [<a
onclick="return
true;Popup.composeWindow('pcompose.php?sendto=jbladel%40godaddy.com');; return
false;" href="mailto:jbladel@xxxxxxxxxxx"; target="_blank"
mce_href="mailto:jbladel@xxxxxxxxxxx";>mailto:jbladel@xxxxxxxxxxx</a>] <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, August 11, 2008 3:02 PM<br> <b>To:</b> Steve DelBianco<br>
<b>Cc:</b> gnso-whois-study@xxxxxxxxx; Gomes,Chuck; Liz Gasster<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [gnso-whois-study] RE: Aug 5 Meeting
Recap<o:p></o:p></span></div> </div> </div> <div><o:p> </o:p></div>
<div><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family:
"Verdana","sans-serif"; color: black;">Steve:<br> <br> Your
version is much better, thanks. <br> <br> However, I would recommend we
strike "or reported", since the focus of the GAC question appears to be on
self-detection, rather than registrar response to external reports of
fraud.<br> <br> Thoughts?<br> <br> J.<br> </span><br> <br> <o:p></o:p></div> <p
class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 12pt;">-------- Original Message
--------<br> Subject: RE: [gnso-whois-study] RE: Aug 5 Meeting Recap<br> From:
"Steve DelBianco" <sdelbianco@xxxxxxxxxxxxx><br> Date: Mon, August 11,
2008 1:57 pm<br> To: "James M. Bladel" <jbladel@xxxxxxxxxxx>,
"Gomes,Chuck"<br> <cgomes@xxxxxxxxxxxx>, "Liz Gasster"
<liz.gasster@xxxxxxxxx><br> Cc:
<gnso-whois-study@xxxxxxxxx><o:p></o:p></p> <div> <div> <div><span
style="font-size: 11pt; font-family:
"Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">James –
all 3 of your proposed hypotheses for GAC 4 capture the policy implications
we’re trying to get to. How about one that combines all 3 of
yours:</span><o:p></o:p></div> </div> <div> <div><span style="font-size: 11pt;
font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73,
125);"> </span><o:p></o:p></div> </div> <div> <div><span style="font-size:
10pt; font-family: "Verdana","sans-serif"; color: black;">A
significant number of Registrars do not apply effective methods to detect
fraudulent domain registrations, and do not take adequate corrective measures
when fraudulent information is detected or reported. </span><o:p></o:p></div>
</div> <div> <div><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family:
"Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73,
125);"> </span><o:p></o:p></div> </div> <div> <div><span style="font-size:
11pt; font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31,
73, 125);">Thanks,</span><o:p></o:p></div> </div> <div> <div><span
style="font-size: 11pt; font-family:
"Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73,
125);">Steve</span><o:p></o:p></div> </div> <div> <div><span style="font-size:
11pt; font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31,
73, 125);"> </span><o:p></o:p></div> </div> <div> <div
style="border-style: solid none none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color;
border-width: 1pt medium medium; padding: 3pt 0in 0in;"> <div> <div><b><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family:
"Tahoma","sans-serif";">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family:
"Tahoma","sans-serif";"> owner-gnso-whois-study@xxxxxxxxx
[<a onclick="return
true;Popup.composeWindow('pcompose.php?sendto=owner-gnso-whois-study%40icann.org');;
return false;" href="mailto:owner-gnso-whois-study@xxxxxxxxx";
mce_href="mailto:owner-gnso-whois-study@xxxxxxxxx";
target="_blank">mailto:owner-gnso-whois-study@xxxxxxxxx</a>] <b>On Behalf Of
</b>James M. Bladel<br> <b>Sent:</b> Monday, August 11, 2008 11:35 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Gomes,Chuck; Liz Gasster<br> <b>Cc:</b>
gnso-whois-study@xxxxxxxxx<br> <b>Subject:</b> RE: [gnso-whois-study] RE: Aug 5
Meeting Recap</span><o:p></o:p></div> </div> </div> </div> <div>
<div> <o:p></o:p></div> </div> <div> <div><span style="font-size: 10pt;
font-family: "Verdana","sans-serif"; color: black;">Chuck,
Liz & Group:<br> <br> Since I was tasked with Area 7, I took a swing at
initial hypotheses for GAC 4 (below). These are also posted on the
Wiki.<br> <br> Thanks--<br> <br> J.<br> <br> *************************<br>
<u>GAC #4:</u> <br> Are there methods employed by
registrars to detect fraudulent domain name registrations? If so, how
successful are they and what do they do with that information?<br> <br>
<u>Hypothesis Provided:</u><br> None.<br> <br> <u>Suggested
Hypotheses:</u><br> A. (Some) Registrars do not
(actively) employ methods or processes to detect fraudulent domain
registrations. <br> B. Registrars who employ
methods or processes to detect fraudulent domain registrations are ineffective
against the problem.<br> C. Registrars who
employ methods take no action when a fraudulent registration is detected.<br>
<br> *************************<br> </span><br> <br> <br> <br> <o:p></o:p></div>
</div> <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 12pt;">-------- Original
Message --------<br> Subject: [gnso-whois-study] RE: Aug 5 Meeting Recap<br>
From: "Gomes, Chuck" <cgomes@xxxxxxxxxxxx><br> Date: Thu, August 07, 2008
12:22 pm<br> To: "Liz Gasster" <liz.gasster@xxxxxxxxx>,
<gnso-whois-study@xxxxxxxxx><o:p></o:p></p> <div> <div><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: "Arial","sans-serif";
color: blue;">Thanks Liz. Very helpful. thanks for catching the
miss of GAC 4 for Area 7. I added that to the agenda for next
week.</span><o:p></o:p></div> </div> <div> <div> <o:p></o:p></div> </div>
<div> <div><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family:
"Arial","sans-serif"; color:
blue;">Chuck</span><o:p></o:p></div> </div> <blockquote style="border-style:
none none none solid; border-color: -moz-use-text-color -moz-use-text-color
-moz-use-text-color blue; border-width: medium medium medium 1.5pt; margin: 5pt
0in 5pt 3pt; padding: 0in 0in 0in 3pt;"> <div> <div> <o:p></o:p></div>
</div> <div class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;text-align: center;"
align="center"> <hr align="center" size="3" width="100%"> </div> <p
class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom: 12pt;"><b><span style="font-size: 10pt;
font-family: "Tahoma","sans-serif";">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family:
"Tahoma","sans-serif";"> Liz Gasster [<u><a onclick="return
true;Popup.composeWindow('pcompose.php?sendto=liz.gasster%40icann.org');;
return false;" href="mailto:liz.gasster@xxxxxxxxx";
mce_href="mailto:liz.gasster@xxxxxxxxx";
target="_blank">mailto:liz.gasster@xxxxxxxxx</a></u></span>] <br> <b>Sent:</b>
Wednesday, August 06, 2008 8:55 PM<br> <b>To:</b> Gomes, Chuck;
gnso-whois-study@xxxxxxxxx<br> <b>Subject:</b> RE: Aug 5 Meeting
Recap<o:p></o:p></p> <div> <div> <div> <div><span style="font-size: 11pt;
font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73,
125);">All,</span><o:p></o:p></div> </div> </div> <div> <div> <div><span
style="font-size: 11pt; font-family:
"Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73,
125);"> </span><o:p></o:p></div> </div> </div> <div> <div> <div><span
style="font-size: 11pt; font-family:
"Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Attached
please find the updated hypotheses discussed yesterday in Word and the wiki has
been updated as well. </span><o:p></o:p></div> </div> </div> <div> <div>
<div><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family:
"Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73,
125);"> </span><o:p></o:p></div> </div> </div> <div> <div> <div><span
style="font-size: 11pt; font-family:
"Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">One
thing:</span><o:p></o:p></div> </div> </div> <div> <div> <div><span
style="font-size: 11pt; font-family:
"Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73,
125);"> </span><o:p></o:p></div> </div> </div> <div> <div> <div><span
style="font-size: 11pt; font-family:
"Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">I added
GAC suggestion #4 to area 7. It had been inadvertently omitted and I
caught it when I did my review. I developed a draft hypothesis for
discussion which I also added to the wiki.</span><o:p></o:p></div> </div>
</div> <div> <div> <div><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family:
"Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73,
125);"> </span><o:p></o:p></div> </div> </div> <div> <div> <div><span
style="font-size: 11pt; font-family:
"Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Note:
this does not include the advance work on Area 8, which we will provide in a
separate update.</span><o:p></o:p></div> </div> </div> <div> <div> <div><span
style="font-size: 11pt; font-family:
"Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73,
125);"> </span><o:p></o:p></div> </div> </div> <div> <div> <div><span
style="font-size: 11pt; font-family:
"Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);">Please
let me know if I’ve overlooked anything.</span><o:p></o:p></div> </div> </div>
<div> <div> <div><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family:
"Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73,
125);"> </span><o:p></o:p></div> </div> </div> <div> <div> <div><span
style="font-size: 11pt; font-family:
"Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73,
125);">Thanks! Liz</span><o:p></o:p></div> </div> </div> <div> <div>
<div><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family:
"Calibri","sans-serif"; color: rgb(31, 73,
125);"> </span><o:p></o:p></div> </div> </div> <div> <div
style="border-style: solid none none; border-color: -moz-use-text-color;
border-width: 1pt medium medium; padding: 3pt 0in 0in;"> <div> <div>
<div><b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family:
"Tahoma","sans-serif";">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family:
"Tahoma","sans-serif";"> owner-gnso-whois-study@xxxxxxxxx
[<u><a onclick="return
true;Popup.composeWindow('pcompose.php?sendto=owner-gnso-whois-study%40icann.org');;
return false;" href="mailto:owner-gnso-whois-study@xxxxxxxxx";
mce_href="mailto:owner-gnso-whois-study@xxxxxxxxx";
target="_blank">mailto:owner-gnso-whois-study@xxxxxxxxx</a></u></span>] <b>On
Behalf Of </b>Gomes, Chuck<br> <b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, August 06, 2008 1:12
PM<br> <b>To:</b> gnso-whois-study@xxxxxxxxx<br> <b>Subject:</b>
[gnso-whois-study] Aug 5 Meeting Recap<o:p></o:p></div> </div> </div> </div>
</div> <div> <div> <div> <o:p></o:p></div> </div> </div> <div> <div> <div>
<div><b>GNSO Whois Study Hypotheses WG Meeting Recap</b><o:p></o:p></div>
</div> </div> <div> <div> <div><b> </b><o:p></o:p></div> </div> </div>
<div> <div> <div><b>5 Aug 2008</b><o:p></o:p></div> </div> </div> <div> <div>
<div><b> </b><o:p></o:p></div> </div> </div> <p style="margin-right: 0in;
margin-left: 0.25in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; text-indent: -0.25in;">1.<span
style="font-size: 7pt;"> </span>Follow-up
discussion on the following resulted in one hypothesis revision and added notes
before the hypotheses table (please refer to the wiki):<o:p></o:p></p> <p
class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 1in; text-indent: -0.25in;">a.<span
style="font-size: 7pt;"> </span><b>Area 5:
</b>Impact of WHOIS data protection on crime and abuse (#6, #13, GAC #11, GAC
#1, GAC #2)<o:p></o:p></p> <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left: 1in;
text-indent: -0.25in;">b.<span style="font-size:
7pt;"> </span><b>Area 6: </b>Proxy registrar
compliance with law enforcement and dispute resolution requests (#3, #20,
Metalitz comment, #12)<o:p></o:p></p> <p style="margin-right: 0in; margin-left:
0.25in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; text-indent: -0.25in;">2.<span
style="font-size: 7pt;"> </span>Hypotheses were
developed for <b>Area 7,</b> Whois data accuracy (#8, # 11) <o:p></o:p></p> <p
style="margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0.25in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt;
text-indent: -0.25in;">3.<span style="font-size:
7pt;"> </span>Initial discussions occurred
regarding <b>Area 8, </b>Other GAC recommendations (GAC Data Set 1, GAC #5, GAC
#6, and GAC #3).<o:p></o:p></p> <p style="margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 1in;
margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; text-indent: -0.25in;">a.<span style="font-size:
7pt;"> </span>Specific discussions occurred
regarding GAC Data Set 1 and GAC Data Set 2 (part of which was covered by
studies in Area 1.<o:p></o:p></p> <p style="margin-right: 0in; margin-left:
1in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; text-indent: -0.25in;">b.<span style="font-size:
7pt;"> </span>Steve DelBianco and Liz Gasster
volunteered to do advance work on Area 8 in preparation for our next meeting on
Tuesday, 11 August. <o:p></o:p></p> <p style="margin-bottom: 0.0001pt;"><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family:
"Arial","sans-serif";">Chuck</span><o:p></o:p></p> </div>
</div> </blockquote> </div> </div>
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