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Re: [gnso-whois-wg] A few questions

  • To: "Ross Rader" <ross@xxxxxxxxxx>
  • Subject: Re: [gnso-whois-wg] A few questions
  • From: "Bertrand de La Chapelle" <bdelachapelle@xxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2007 22:59:30 +0200

Very interesting exchange indeed ... Mmmmm... A bit surreal though.
Thanks anyway : makes one really think and understand better some of the
roadblocks ... :-(

Bertrand


On 7/22/07, Ross Rader <ross@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Whether or not you agree with icann's polcy of allowing registrars to charge market rates for the services they offer is interesting, but completely ot of scope for this working group. Tha is unless I missed something in my read of our terms of reference. Pricing is a matter of private contract between the registrars, ICANN and in some cases the registries. Those contracts now permit us to charge market rates for the services we offer.

Also  note that impact assessments are not price regulatory instruments,
they aresimply statements of imapct by affected parties which allow the
council to more thoroughy understand the net benefit of their policy
recoomendations.



-----Original Message-----
From: "Danny Younger" <dannyyounger@xxxxxxxxx>
To: ross@xxxxxxxxxx
Cc: "Tim Ruiz" <tim@xxxxxxxxxxx>; "Doug Isenberg" <
disenberg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; gnso-whois-wg@xxxxxxxxx
Sent: 22/07/07 15:01
Subject: Re: [gnso-whois-wg] A few questions

Hi Ross,

I'm not about to agree to giving registrars a carte
blanche to set whatever prices they choose for this
service.

As impact assessments must accompany any proposed
policy, I see this topic (ongoing registrant abuse by
way of onerous registrar fees) as very much in scope.

.... and if you don't think that registrar fees are
onerous, consider the $260 that some
registrars/resellers charge for the Redemption Grace
Period fee (that only costs them $40).

regards,
Danny


--- Ross Rader <ross@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Danny Younger wrote:
> > (1) For the sake of curiosity, how many billion
> > look-ups are now performed monthly?
> >
> > (2) Under the OPOC proposal, how many monthly
> look-ups
> > would be anticipated?
> >
> > (3) Multiplying a "nominal fee" times the number
> of
> > expected look-ups will yield about how many
> > million/billion dollars for the registrar
> community?
>
> When I brought up the issue of fees, I did not use
> the term "cost
> recovery" (although Tom has). Consistent with
> ICANN's recent moves to
> stay out of the pricing game in the registry
> business, and their
> consistent position that registrar level pricing be
> set by market
> forces, I see no reason why the provision of these
> services should be
> different. This working group is proposing a new set
> of services, to
> which each registrar should be permitted to price in
> any manner they see
> fit.
>
> The question of "who gets how much of what" is
> entirely irrelevent for
> this working group and vastly over-reaches ICANN's
> scope of policy
> making responsibility.
>
> -ross
>





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