RE: [gnso-whois-wg] A few questions

["Milton L Mueller" <mueller@xxxxxxx>]

Danny
You may be forgetting that looking up an OPoC'ed WHOIS listing via port 43 will 
continue to be "free." 

And you may also be forgetting that under the current report, only natural 
persons, not legal persons, will be OPoC'ed. 

(How do you like that new verb I made?) 

Ordinary Internet users rarely need to know the street address or email address 
of a natural person domain registrant. If the domain registrant wants other 
people to know that information they can put it on the web site or in the Whois 
record, by being their own OPoC. 

I feel a strong urge to say, "An OPoC on both your houses...." 

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-gnso-whois-wg@xxxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-gnso-whois-wg@xxxxxxxxx] On 
Behalf Of Danny Younger
Sent: Sunday, July 22, 2007 3:02 PM
To: ross@xxxxxxxxxx
Cc: Tim Ruiz; Doug Isenberg; gnso-whois-wg@xxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [gnso-whois-wg] A few questions

Hi Ross,

I'm not about to agree to giving registrars a carte
blanche to set whatever prices they choose for this
service. 

As impact assessments must accompany any proposed
policy, I see this topic (ongoing registrant abuse by
way of onerous registrar fees) as very much in scope.

... and if you don't think that registrar fees are
onerous, consider the $260 that some
registrars/resellers charge for the Redemption Grace
Period fee (that only costs them $40).

regards,
Danny


--- Ross Rader <ross@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Danny Younger wrote:
> > (1) For the sake of curiosity, how many billion
> > look-ups are now performed monthly?  
> > 
> > (2) Under the OPOC proposal, how many monthly
> look-ups
> > would be anticipated?  
> > 
> > (3) Multiplying a "nominal fee" times the number
> of
> > expected look-ups will yield about how many
> > million/billion dollars for the registrar
> community? 
> 
> When I brought up the issue of fees, I did not use
> the term "cost 
> recovery" (although Tom has). Consistent with
> ICANN's recent moves to 
> stay out of the pricing game in the registry
> business, and their 
> consistent position that registrar level pricing be
> set by market 
> forces, I see no reason why the provision of these
> services should be 
> different. This working group is proposing a new set
> of services, to 
> which each registrar should be permitted to price in
> any manner they see 
> fit.
> 
> The question of "who gets how much of what" is
> entirely irrelevent for 
> this working group and vastly over-reaches ICANN's
> scope of policy 
> making responsibility.
> 
> -ross
> 



       
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