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RE: [gnso-whois-wg] Draft outcomes report v 1.6
- To: "Thomas Keller" <tom@xxxxxxxxxx>, "Dan Krimm" <dan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Subject: RE: [gnso-whois-wg] Draft outcomes report v 1.6
- From: "Fares, David" <DFares@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 10 Aug 2007 13:02:29 -0400
Tom,
If the OPOC proposal were to be approved and implemented, it would
create new obligations/burdens for many different groups. I do not see
why registrars should be spared from assuming new obligations as well in
order to implement the OPOC proposal, which originally was presented by
registrars.
David
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Sent: Friday, August 10, 2007 5:40 AM
To: Dan Krimm
Cc: gnso-whois-wg@xxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [gnso-whois-wg] Draft outcomes report v 1.6
I agree with Dan. A formal recorded consent of the OPOC would, as
already pointed out by several of my registrar colleagues, be a
very big change in the registration process of every registrar and
reseller. As the registrant is finally responsible for all contacts
attached to a registered name it should be in his sole responsibility
to make sure of the consent of the OPOC.
Best,
tom
Am 09.08.2007 schrieb Dan Krimm:
> At 6:43 PM -0400 8/9/07, Michael Warnecke wrote:
>
> > ... If we cannot
> >agree, as a baseline proposition, that an OPOC must consent to being
an
> >OPOC, it calls into question the credibility of the OPOC system.
>
> I don't at all see why this should be the case.
>
> I can envision an OPoC *system* that is entirely credible without
requiring
> anyone (other than a registrant) to ensure consent of an OPoC. If the
> registrant bears the responsibility and liability for the OPoC's
actions,
> then it is in the registrant's interest to choose an OPoC who consents
to
> fulfilling that role for the registrant. If the registrant fails to
do so,
> the registrant can bear the full liability if and when the OPoC fails
to
> perform expected tasks. If a registrant designates an OPoC in bad
faith,
> that can and will come back to haunt the registrant eventually, when
the
> OPoC fails to perform its tasks.
>
> This consent requirement constitutes unnecessary and spurious
complexity
> that just bogs down the whole system and creates disagreement among
us. If
> the mission here is to erode consensus, then it is quite effective.
>
> Dan
>
> PS -- In the event that anyone were to be held formally liable for
explicit
> (and perhaps formal) OPoC *consent* in and of itself, separate from
the
> *tasks* that an OPoC will perform, it is perfectly credible for the
system
> to assign that responsibility to the registrant exclusively. But I
see no
> need for a formal consent requirement, because the functional
incentives
> can be enough to establish this if we design the rest of the system
> properly.
>
>
>
Gruss,
tom
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