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RE: [gnso-wpm-dt] WPM-DT: Step 3a (Rating Test #1 - In Progress)
- To: "Jaime Wagner" <jaime@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, Stéphane Van Gelder <stephane.vangelder@xxxxxxxxx>, "Ken Bour" <ken.bour@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- Subject: RE: [gnso-wpm-dt] WPM-DT: Step 3a (Rating Test #1 - In Progress)
- From: "Gomes, Chuck" <cgomes@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2009 14:46:34 -0500
Please see my responses below.
Chuck
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From: Jaime Wagner [mailto:jaime@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Monday, December 14, 2009 2:01 PM
To: Gomes, Chuck; 'Stéphane Van Gelder'; 'Ken Bour'
Cc: gnso-wpm-dt@xxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: [gnso-wpm-dt] WPM-DT: Step 3a (Rating Test #1 - In
Progress)
In fact I tend to agree with Stéphane with respect to the resource
consumption axis estimation.
For me the difficulty is very close to impossibility.
What brings about my suggestion of uneven weights, which in view of the
situation, should be discarded.
We do this when we have a good sense of resource capacity, which is not
the case, at least in my case.
So let me pose some questions:
1) how could we have an estimate of capacity?[Gomes, Chuck]
Capacity as you know depends on both the # of resources available and the
workload those resources are already devoted to. As the GNSO gets more
volunteers, the capacity increases. As our projects increase, our capacty
decreases. One can offset the other. If we make this too scientific, it will
take too long and not help us, so we will need to do our best to estimate
capacity at a high level.
2) Which capacity are we talking about? Staff's work hours?
Councilors'? Budget?[Gomes, Chuck] All of these.
Jaime Wagner
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From: owner-gnso-wpm-dt@xxxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-gnso-wpm-dt@xxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Gomes, Chuck
Sent: segunda-feira, 14 de dezembro de 2009 13:49
To: Stéphane Van Gelder; Ken Bour
Cc: gnso-wpm-dt@xxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: [gnso-wpm-dt] WPM-DT: Step 3a (Rating Test #1 - In
Progress)
Please see my responses below.
Chuck
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From: owner-gnso-wpm-dt@xxxxxxxxx
[mailto:owner-gnso-wpm-dt@xxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Stéphane Van Gelder
Sent: Monday, December 14, 2009 9:40 AM
To: Ken Bour
Cc: gnso-wpm-dt@xxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [gnso-wpm-dt] WPM-DT: Step 3a (Rating Test #1 - In
Progress)
Thanks Ken,
Please find attached my contribution.
A few comments:
- I did not deem it necessary or even desirable to take the
time to go back to the RrSG in order to get feedback on rating. I consider this
a test and the points awarded only reflect my own personal judgment or
experience.
- For the X axis, I consider the higher the number of points,
the less desirable the project (as it is consuming more resources).
[Gomes, Chuck] Not sure I agree with this if I correctly
understand. New gTLDs would have been an undesirable project using this logic.
It certainly would have been rated very high on the X axis and rightly so but
that would not make it undesirable. Maybe it is just a matter of not
suggesting that a high X axis rating does not mean desirable or undesirable
projects. This is reversed for the Y axis (the more points awarded, the more
a project is worthy of the GNSO's attention).[Gomes, Chuck] Again, I am not
sure this will always be true. If this is consistent with everyone else's
understanding, it may be worthwhile making this very clear once the definitive
rating instructions are sent to the Council.
- I found the X axis very difficult to rate. It is impossible
for me to have a clear idea of the amount of budgetary resources a project
requires without having some kind of figure in front of me from staff. Would it
be worthwhile thinking about putting such a figure next to each project
description listed in the word document that came with Ken's email?[Gomes,
Chuck] Keep in mind that budgetary info is just one aspect and that it may be
very difficult to get reasonable budgetary estimates early in the game. For
existing projects it will be much easier to estimate budget impact; for new
ones, it will be more challenging. If we ask for budget estimates from Staff
to perform this exercise, it will take us too long to do it. At the same time,
each Councilor should be able estimate resources required on a comparative
basis at a high level so as to be able to complete the exercise.
- I was surprised when rating to find that projects that tended
to be of lower value (according to me) also tended to require less resources
(less man hours spent on them, less expensive). I think there's something in
that, still trying to work out what it is ;)[Gomes, Chuck] I think this
illustrates what I tried to say above. Just because something requires smaller
amount of resources doesn't mean we should do it.
Thanks,
Stéphane
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