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RE: [gnso-wpm-dt] WPM: Section 6 - Draft #3
- To: "Jaime Plug In" <jaime@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, "Ken Bour" <ken.bour@xxxxxxxxxxx>, <gnso-wpm-dt@xxxxxxxxx>
- Subject: RE: [gnso-wpm-dt] WPM: Section 6 - Draft #3
- From: "Gomes, Chuck" <cgomes@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 19 Mar 2010 10:51:08 -0400
I definitely would disagree that implementation projects automatically have a
higher priority than other projects. One of the things we need to realize is
that implementation projects are usually staffed with different people than the
policy staff so that becomes another reason why it may not make sense to
prioritize them. For example, the new gTLD implementation team is distinct for
the policy staff team that supports the GNSO.
Chuck
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From: owner-gnso-wpm-dt@xxxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-gnso-wpm-dt@xxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Jaime Plug In
Sent: Friday, March 19, 2010 9:15 AM
To: 'Ken Bour'; gnso-wpm-dt@xxxxxxxxx
Subject: RES: [gnso-wpm-dt] WPM: Section 6 - Draft #3
Importance: High
My rejoinder below
Jaime Wagner
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De: Gomes, Chuck [mailto:cgomes@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
Enviada em: quinta-feira, 18 de março de 2010 12:59
Para: Ken Bour; Jaime Plug In; gnso-wpm-dt@xxxxxxxxx
Assunto: RE: [gnso-wpm-dt] WPM: Section 6 - Draft #3
Thanks Jaime and Ken. Please see my responses below.
Chuck
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From: owner-gnso-wpm-dt@xxxxxxxxx
[mailto:owner-gnso-wpm-dt@xxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ken Bour
Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2010 10:15 AM
To: 'Jaime Plug In'; gnso-wpm-dt@xxxxxxxxx
Subject: [gnso-wpm-dt] WPM: Section 6 - Draft #3
Jaime and WPM Team Members:
Please see my comments under yours below...
Ken
From: Jaime Plug In [mailto:jaime@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2010 7:37 PM
To: 'Ken Bour'; gnso-wpm-dt@xxxxxxxxx
Subject: RES: [gnso-wpm-dt] WPM: Section 6 - Draft #3
Importance: High
Thanks Ken,
Some comments. (I make them here for the sake of readability,
but they are also inserted in the attached Word doc.)
1. Addition to purposes:
d. Consensus Building: to have a method to reach a
reasonable consensus on priorities among Councilors and the GNSO community.
[KAB] I would suggest that 'consensus building' is not as much
a purpose of prioritizing the GNSO's work than a technique or approach we are
recommending to develop the project ratings/rankings. We could accomplish it
by using only individual Councilor ratings which is actually the first stage of
a multi-step method.
[Gomes, Chuck] What Ken says makes sense to me. Is that
consistent with what you were suggesting Jaime?
[JBW] Any process that takes an average supposes that the whole
agrees that this average reflects a reasonable compromise for all. This
underlying agreement is what I call consensus. Otherwise the group can always
deny even taking an average. Supposing that we will not face such a denial, the
priorities will be accepted as pertaining to the GNSO as a whole and not to a
particular House or SG. In this sense I think that the process will help to
foster agreement, if not consensus.
2. Comment on "Inplem" projects (6.2.2)
In view of the Purpose established on 6.1 (resource allocation)
and considering that implementation may have a considerable resource
consumption, I think we should review our decision to consider these as
Non-Prioritized Projects. I already had brought this idea in one of our calls
and as I remember I was convinced not to consider them as Prioritized Projects
because we were dealing mainly with community resources and not staff's. But
that is not what is stated in the Purpose.
[KAB] Perhaps Chuck can clarify; but, as I understand it,
"Implem" projects occupy Staff primarily and not the community. There is
little or no "management" work to be done by the Council once a project reaches
this stage of its life-cycle - it is in the hands of Staff. As I recall the
team's discussion, we agreed to keep these projects in Table 2 so that the
Council could develop an understanding of the total effort consuming Staff as
it considers whether to initiate new project work. To use an example, the
GNSO Website project is in the implementation phase (in effect); therefore, the
Council would not need to rate/prioritize it. The Council would need to
recognize that Staff resources are being consumed in that implementation, which
might affect the GNSO's ability to take on another project that would otherwise
tap the same personnel.
[Gomes, Chuck] The GNSO is only involved in implementation work
to the extent that the Staff implementation team involves them. Some ways that
this has happened are: 1) forming a community implementation team (this was
done with the transfer policy); 2) request for community comments on
implementation plan as has happened several times for new gTLDs; 3) formation
of a group to work on specific issues (e.g., STI). In cases like 1) and 3)
those special projects would certainly need to be prioritized because they
would involve resources from the broader GNSO community, but I am not convinced
that general implemenation efforts should be prioritized. Here are some
examples of implementation projects that I don't think would have benefited or
would benefit in the future for prioritization efforts except to the exent that
Staff resources become limited: RAA changes; Whois Studies; GNSO Constituency
Reconfirmations; synthesis of Whois requirements. Also, adding more projects
to the prioritization effort will just make it more complicated and require
more time.
[jbw] I understand and agree with that. But the stated purpose
is to "ensure that Volunteer and Staff personnel are utilized in the most
efficacious and efficient manner". But I feel (and would like to confirm my
reasoning with you) that we are indirectly stating that implementation projects
have higher priority than Pioritized Projects. Reasoning "ad absurdum", say
that staff is completely allocated to an implementation project. Then, it would
have always the highest priority because all other projects would have to wait
for its completion.
3. Comment on status and classification (6.2.3)
There's not a lack of provisions as to how a project status can
be changed? Think that a decision by the Chair is enough. The decision would
have immediate effect but should be validated in the next regular
prioritization round. In the interim that decision could be challenged by any
councilor, in which case a special prioritization session should be called upon.
[KAB] I'm not sure I understand this comment in its entirety.
[Gomes, Chuck] If I understand Jaime's comment correctly, I
think I agree.
[Jbw] Trying to clarify. Who decides or formally acknowledges
that a project has been suspended, for instance? There's no provision for such
a process in the document.
So, I'm proposing a formal and yet not so bureaucratic process
for changes in status or classification of a project:
1) Staff suggests and/or the Chair decides and publishes
his decision
2) The decision has immediate effects, unless it is
challenged by a councilor.
3) If the decision is challenged, this prioritization
issue, should be in the agenda of the next Council meeting or a special
prioritization session should occur.
4) If the decision is not challenged, it would be
naturally ratified in the next regular prioritization session (whichever the
period we choose for it - annually or quarterly).
I could not yet give the necessary consideration (time) to item
6.3.5 (New Projects). But I think the above comments already deserve team's
consideration.
Jaime Wagner
jaime@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:jaime@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Cel (51) 8126-0916
Fax (51) 3123-1708
De: owner-gnso-wpm-dt@xxxxxxxxx
[mailto:owner-gnso-wpm-dt@xxxxxxxxx] Em nome de Ken Bour
Enviada em: quarta-feira, 17 de março de 2010 17:34
Para: gnso-wpm-dt@xxxxxxxxx
Assunto: [gnso-wpm-dt] WPM: Section 6 - Draft #3
WPM Team Members:
Thanks to Chuck and Wolf-Ulrich for their recent edits and
comments.
For those who haven't had time to review the document, I
created a new version in which I accepted most, if not all, of the suggested
changes and added a few more of my own (redlined). I also attempted to
address a few embedded comments and, in turn, added a couple more for the
team's consideration as we prepare for our session on Monday. This new version
is labeled Draft #3 (or KBv3).
Concerning our next two meetings, I have pinged Gisella for a
Doodle poll on Monday, 22 & 29 March, and I expect that we will see something
shortly from her.
I am also working on a first draft of the Annex which I intent
to submit to the WPM-DT email list tomorrow, Thursday.
Again, I hope that we can focus our time Monday perfecting
Section 6 and, if all goes well, take up the Annex subsequently.
Ken Bour
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