Re: [jig] Getting started

["Fahd A. Batayneh" <fahd.batayneh@xxxxxxxxx>]

Hi Edmon,

With respect to your first question, I would suggest discussing both items
since they might be of use to the IDN community.

With regards to the Arabic script in specific and whether policies should be
applied alike for cc's and g's, my answer is NO! Since the Arabic script
consists of Arabic, Urdu, Farsi, Jawi, and Turkish languages, each community
can devise their own language table for their cc. However, as for g's, and
since various countries using the same script might require different
variants or digits, a different script table would be used. For example, we
in Jordan are going to use only the Arabic alphabets we use as an Arabic
speaking community with no diacritics or variants. Also, we will prohibit
digit mixing since digit mixing is not required. However, as for the Arabic
table devised for registering the .arab domain (for the entire Arab region
in Arabic), we might require some variants and some possible digit mixing!

We could discuss this issue further in our next telephonic conference or
f-2-f meeting.

Cheers,

-- FAB
Sent from Amman, Jordan


On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 8:41 AM, Edmon Chung <edmon@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

>  Hi Fahd,
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> From your explanation, can I understand it to be interest to add an item
> for discussion on one or both of:
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> - IDN language table/policy at the root for IDN TLD strings
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> - Consistency of language table/policy applied for 2nd/3rd level domain
> registrations across TLDs
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> I understand that you are talking specifically about the Arabic script, am
> trying to generalize what you are saying into an item for discussion for
> this group.
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> With regards to Arabic script specifically, can you share with us perhaps
> whether you think that the policies should be applied across ccTLDs and
> gTLDs alike when Arabic IDNs are concerned? and why...
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> The JIG is intended to be a group to discuss issues that are common (or
> should be viewed as common or leads to an inter-relation) across IDN ccTLDs
> and IDN gTLDs.  Especially policy implementation issues at the root and
> those which ICANN (or IANA for that matter) would concern itself with in
> coordinating the security and stability of the DNS.  [[Others please correct
> or add to this :-)]]
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> *From:* Fahd A. Batayneh [mailto:fahd.batayneh@xxxxxxxxx]
> *Sent:* Monday, November 23, 2009 2:25 PM
> *To:* Edmon Chung
> *Cc:* jig@xxxxxxxxx
> *Subject:* Re: [jig] Getting started
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> Greetings Edmon and Members of the JIG working group,
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> First of all, allow me to introduce myself. My name is Fahd, and I
> represent JO (Jordan). I am one of the additions from the ccNSO.
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> Since I am a member of the Arabic Script community, one challenge we are
> facing is the issue of digit mixing. Other issues that have been *
> discussed* and *resolved* are the usage of diacritics, as well as
> zero-width joiners and zero-width non-joiners.
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> Since I am not aware of other scripts or languages other than the Arabic
> script, and since I am not sure if the items I mentioned are of concern to
> this working group, just thought of bringing them up in case...
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> Cheers,
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> -- FAB
> Sent from Amman, Jordan
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>  On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 6:37 AM, Edmon Chung <edmon@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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> Hi Everyone,
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> I understand that the ccNSO representatives along with some observers are
> added to this list, and we are ready to get started finally :-)
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> One of the discussions we had in Seoul (during the GNSO/ccNSO launch) was
> that we anticipate the release of a report from the staff IDN team shortly
> (regarding IDN TLD length and variant management). It may be useful for this
> group to observe some of the outcomes from that effort as well.
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> I wonder if anyone can provide some update on the release of that report?
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> Based on previous discussions the 2 items that we have identified as items
> of common interest were in fact:
> 1. Length of IDN TLD strings (ccTLD vs. gTLD)
> 2. Variant implementation at the root (for IDN TLD strings)
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> Does anyone have any suggestion on other potential items to discuss?
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> Edmon
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