RE: [npoc-voice] Fwd: [liaison6c] Protection of International Olympic Committee (IOC) / Red Cross Names (RCRC) Drafting Team - Recommendations

[Lori Schulman <lori.schulman@xxxxxxxx>]

I am going to follow up my comment with some questions,

What does it mean from a global perspective "to protect" all nonprofits?    
Protection from online fraud? Protection from exploitation? Protection from 
ICANN's expansive gTLD policy?

Both terms "protect" and "nonprofit" need well articulated definitions in order 
for any policy objectives to succeed.

Lori

Lori S. Schulman · General Counsel
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-----Original Message-----
From: Lori Schulman
Sent: Friday, October 05, 2012 3:15 PM
To: 'Hansen, Anjali'; 'Branzelle, Judy'; klaus.stoll; Caroline Figuères; Jan 
Morton
Cc: Carson, Michael; jecochard@xxxxxxx; alain.berranger@xxxxxxxxx; 
npoc-voice@xxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: [npoc-voice] Fwd: [liaison6c] Protection of International Olympic 
Committee (IOC) / Red Cross Names (RCRC) Drafting Team - Recommendations

Dear All,

I have great reservations about this without putting a lot more thought into 
it.  The US  definition of a nonprofit does not translate globally.   This is 
the challenge faced by any entity who claims to represent the nonprofit 
community.   In keeping with ICANN's global focus, there should be articulated 
principles with delineated criteria and not definitions derived from any 
particular legal code.   Treaties and conventions could certainly provide some 
guidelines and well as generally recognized standards of what constitutes a 
nonprofit or nongovernmental organization.  I support some exceptions in very 
rare cases based on select circumstances.  Klaus calls this the UN +10 model 
and I think it is the sensible approach.

Loroi

Lori S. Schulman · General Counsel
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Subject: RE: [npoc-voice] Fwd: [liaison6c] Protection of International Olympic 
Committee (IOC) / Red Cross Names (RCRC) Drafting Team - Recommendations


I also support protection of all nonprofits.  I would request that nonprofits 
be defined broadly to encompass all 501(c) entities pursuant to the U.S. tax 
code.  There are different categories of nonprofits in the U.S., and I'm not 
sure about other countries.

Thank you all very much.

Anjali Karina Hansen | Associate General Counsel

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-----Original Message-----
From: owner-npoc-voice@xxxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-npoc-voice@xxxxxxxxx] On Behalf 
Of Branzelle, Judy
Sent: Friday, October 05, 2012 2:00 PM
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npoc-voice@xxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: [npoc-voice] Fwd: [liaison6c] Protection of International Olympic 
Committee (IOC) / Red Cross Names (RCRC) Drafting Team - Recommendations


I fully support protection for all non-profits.


Judy Branzelle
General Counsel
Goodwill Industries International Inc.
15810 Indianola Drive
Rockville, MD 20855
240-333-5205



-----Original Message-----
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Of klaus.stoll
Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2012 3:20 PM
To: Caroline Figuères; Jan Morton
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Subject: Re: [npoc-voice] Fwd: [liaison6c] Protection of International Olympic 
Committee (IOC) / Red Cross Names (RCRC) Drafting Team - Recommendations


Dear Friends

Greetings. It looks very much to me that protection for all non profits should 
become one of the policies of NPOC. I would like to hear from anybody who would 
have strong objections to this and also those who support. I think that as a 
next step the Chair of the NPOC Policy Committee should create a working group 
on this and come up with a draft proposal text that we can feed into the ICANN 
and other ecosystem as soon as possible.

Yours

Klaus

-----Original Message-----
From: Caroline Figuères
Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2012 5:47 PM
To: Jan Morton
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alain.berranger@xxxxxxxxx ; npoc-voice@xxxxxxxxx ; 
ioc-rcrc-recommendations@xxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [npoc-voice] Fwd: [liaison6c] Protection of International Olympic 
Committee (IOC) / Red Cross Names (RCRC) Drafting Team - Recommendations


Dear all
Fully agree that we should seek protection for all non profits. I am still not 
in favor of exceptions. Best Caroline

Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPhone

Op 4 okt. 2012 om 17:29 heeft Jan Morton <JMorton@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> het 
volgende geschreven:

>
> I also agree that it is important to seek protection for all nonprofits.
> Thanks for all you are doing in this arena.
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Jan Morton
> Young Life
> (719) 381-1769
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-npoc-voice@xxxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-npoc-voice@xxxxxxxxx]
> On Behalf Of Carson, Michael
> Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2012 6:36 AM
> To: klaus.stoll@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx; jecochard@xxxxxxx;
> alain.berranger@xxxxxxxxx
> Cc: npoc-voice@xxxxxxxxx; ioc-rcrc-recommendations@xxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: [npoc-voice] Fwd: [liaison6c] Protection of International
> Olympic Committee (IOC) / Red Cross Names (RCRC) Drafting Team -
> Recommendations
>
>
> Klaus and Jean-Louis,
>
> Thank you both for your comments.  I wholeheartedly concur with what
> has been said.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Michael
> YMCA of the USA
>
>
> Sent from my Samsung smartphone on AT&T
>
>
>
> -------- Original message --------
> Subject: Re: [npoc-voice] Fwd: [liaison6c] Protection of International
> Olympic Committee (IOC) / Red Cross Names (RCRC) Drafting Team -
> Recommendations
> From: "klaus.stoll" <klaus.stoll@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: Jean-Louis Ecochard <jecochard@xxxxxxx>,Alain Berranger
> <alain.berranger@xxxxxxxxx>
> CC: "npoc-voice@xxxxxxxxx"
> <npoc-voice@xxxxxxxxx>,"ioc-rcrc-recommendations@xxxxxxxxx"
> <ioc-rcrc-recommendations@xxxxxxxxx>
>
>
>
> Dear Jean-Louis
>
> I want to Thank You for raising what might be the most important
> aspect in this debate: protection and a plain playing field for all
> non-profits. I confess, I think we, including me,  got side tracked in
> the debate by concentrating on the individual and not on the
> collective. I think it would be great if we could now all, and I
> include here the IOC and the IRC, move away from seeking protection
> for individual organizations or not, but close ranks and seek protection and 
> justice for all!
>
> Thanks again for your extremely valuable contribution
>
> Yours
>
> Klaus
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jean-Louis Ecochard
> Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2012 12:32 AM
> To: Alain Berranger
> Cc: npoc-voice@xxxxxxxxx ; ioc-rcrc-recommendations@xxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: [npoc-voice] Fwd: [liaison6c] Protection of International
> Olympic Committee (IOC) / Red Cross Names (RCRC) Drafting Team -
> Recommendations
>
>
> Cher Alain,
>
> I agree and I am in favor of the proposed PDP route.
>
> But also want to make it clear that we have to represent the needs of
> all non-profits, big and small, members and non-members and that while
> IRC and IOC had the resources to pay attention to the early ICANN
> texts and hence insert their requests for protection by the deadlines,
> it was not the case of other non-profits who either did not know what
> was happening (and most still don't ) or did not have the resources to 
> request protection.
>
> With understanding that the exception process is closed and respecting
> opinions asking no more exception be made, it is nonetheless unfair
> and unjust that so many non-profits brands will risk being co-opted at
> the gTLD level and thus have to potentially spend donor money to
> making the gTLD right instead of doing good. As NGOs are a substantial
> part of the public good,  it is in the utmost interest of the public
> good to open this exception process broader than IRC and IOC's brands
> to the interest of all NGOs and make it a standard for the protection
> of non-profit brands instead of an exception limited to IRC and IOC.
>
> Merci,
> Jean-Louis Ecochard
>
>
>
> From: Alain Berranger
> <alain.berranger@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:alain.berranger@xxxxxxxxx>>
> Date: Tuesday, October 2, 2012 3:07 PM
> To: "npoc-voice@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:npoc-voice@xxxxxxxxx>"
> <npoc-voice@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:npoc-voice@xxxxxxxxx>>,
> "ioc-rcrc-recommendations@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:ioc-rcrc-recommendations@xxxxxxxxx>"
> <ioc-rcrc-recommendations@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:ioc-rcrc-recommendations@ic
> ann.org>>
> Subject: [npoc-voice] Fwd: [liaison6c] Protection of International
> Olympic Committee (IOC) / Red Cross Names (RCRC) Drafting Team -
> Recommendations
>
> Dear NPOC Colleagues,
>
> I do not recall an NPOC consultation on this. Hence, it is not
> possible to refer to an NCSG opposition, but I presume only to an NCUC
> opposition (although I have not followed NCUC on this issue). That
> said, we at NPOC need to express ourselves on this issue. I for one
> favor the PDP route as an appropriate compromise. What say you?
>
> Alain
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Glen de Saint Géry <Glen@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:Glen@xxxxxxxxx>>
> Date: Mon, Oct 1, 2012 at 6:17 PM
> Subject: [liaison6c] Protection of International Olympic Committee
> (IOC) / Red Cross Names (RCRC) Drafting Team - Recommendations
> To: liaison6c
> <liaison6c@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:liaison6c@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
>
>
> https://www.icann.org/en/news/public-comment/ioc-rcrc-recommendations-
> 28sep12-en.htm Protection of International Olympic Committee (IOC) /
> Red Cross Names
> (RCRC) Drafting Team - Recommendations Comment/Reply Periods (*)
>
> Important Information Links
>
> Comment Open:
>
> 28 September 2012
>
> Comment Close:
>
> 19 October 2012
>
> Close Time (UTC):
>
> 23:59 UTC
>
> Public Comment
> Announcement<https://www.icann.org/en/news/announcements/announcement-
> 28sep12-en.htm>
>
> Reply Open:
>
> 20 October 2012
>
> To Submit Your Comments
> (Forum)<mailto:ioc-rcrc-recommendations@xxxxxxxxx>
>
> Reply Close:
>
> 9 November 2012
>
> View Comments
> Submitted<http://forum.icann.org/lists/ioc-rcrc-recommendations/>
>
> Close Time (UTC):
>
> 23:59 UTC
>
> Report of Public Comments
>
> Brief Overview
>
> Originating Organization:
>
> GNSO
>
> Categories/Tags:
>
>
>  *   Top-Level Domains
>  *   Second-Level Domains
>  *   Policy Process
>  *   Intellectual Property
>
> Purpose (Brief):
>
> The IOC/RCRC Drafting Team (DT) requests community comment on the
> latest recommendations created for second level protections of names
> relating to the International Olympic Committee and the Red Cross/Red 
> Crescent.
>
> Current Status:
>
> Open for Public Comment
>
> Next Steps:
>
> The Drafting Team's recommendations will be updated to reflect
> community feedback submitted through this forum and via final
> agreement of the Drafting Team members. Final recommendations will
> then be presented to the GNSO Council for its consideration.
>
> Staff Contact:
>
> Brian Peck, Margie Milam
>
> Email:
>
> Policy-staff@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:Policy-staff@xxxxxxxxx?subject=More%20in
> formation%20on%20the%20Protection%20of%20International%20Olympic%20Com
> mittee%20%28IOC%29%20/%20Red%20Cross%20Names%20%28RCRC%29%20Drafting%2
> 0Team%20%E2%80%93%20Recommendations%20public%20comment%20period>
>
> Detailed Information
>
> Section I: Description, Explanation, and Purpose
>
>
> As a result of IOC/RCRC being granted top level protections for the
> first round of the new gTLD program, the IOC/RCRC Drafting Team was
> further tasked to consider whether the same protections should be
> afforded at the second level prior to the first delegation of a new
> gTLD. Since the beginning of 2012, the IOC/RCRC Drafting Team (DT) has
> deliberated about possible second level protections and how to respond
> to the GAC's request for protections.
> The DT now submits the recommendations formulated by the DT and makes
> them available for public comment before final submission to the GNSO Council.
>
> Note from the IOC/RCRC Drafting Team Chair:
> These recommendations are being posted at the request of the Drafting
> Team.
> Although some members of the Drafting Team believe that a PDP is not
> necessary at this time to grant second level protections for the
> IOC/RCRC, a consensus of the DT does in fact agree that a PDP
> represents an appropriate compromise on this issue. With respect to
> the Recommendations
> #2 and #3 (temporary protection at second level), there is strong
> support amongst the Drafting Team for those recommendations with
> opposition from the Non-commercial Stakeholder Group and Thomas
> Rickert. A copy of statements from certain constituencies, stakeholder
> groups, and/or individuals is attached as appendices to the recommendations.
>
> Section II: Background
>
>
> The ICANN Board had requested policy advice from the GNSO Council and
> the GAC on whether special protections should be afforded to the RCRC,
> IOC and/or IGOs. Specifically, in its Singapore resolution, the Board
> authorized the President and CEO to implement the New gTLD Program
> "which includes the following elements: "the 30 May 2011 version of
> the Applicant Guidebook, subject to the revisions agreed to with the
> GAC on 19 June 2011, including:
> ...(b) incorporation of text concerning protection for specific
> requested Red Cross and IOC names for the top level only during the
> initial application round, until the GNSO and GAC develop policy
> advice based on the global public interest....."
>
> During September 2011, the GAC also sent advice to the GNSO with a
> proposal for granting second level protections based upon the
> protections afforded to IOC/RCRC at the first level. In the same
> month, section
> 2.2.1.2.3 was added to the latest version of the new gTLD Applicant
> Guidebook dated 19 September 2011.
>
> As a result of the GAC proposal submitted to the GNSO, the GNSO
> Council created a call for volunteers to form a drafting team about
> creating a response to the GAC. The IOC/RCRC Drafting Team was formed
> has since created a set of recommendations for protecting the IOC/RCRC
> names at the second level and includes an outline for a response to
> the GAC from the GNSO. The Drafting Team now wishes to solicit
> feedback from the community prior to submission of the recommendations to the 
> GNSO Council.
>
> See the IOC/RCRC Drafting Team page for more detail at:
> http://gnso.icann.org/en/group-activities/red-cross-ioc.htm
>
> Section III: Document and Resource Links
>
> IOC/RCRC Drafting Team Recommendations
> Report<http://gnso.icann.org/en/issues/ioc-rcrc-recommendations-28sep1
> 2-en.pdf>
> [PDF, 152 KB]
>
> Section IV: Additional Information
>
> None
>
>
>
>
> (*) Comments submitted after the posted Close Date/Time are not
> guaranteed to be considered in any final summary, analysis, reporting,
> or decision-making that takes place once this period lapses.
>
>
> Glen de Saint Géry
> GNSO Secretariat
> gnso.secretariat@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:gnso.secretariat@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >
> http://gnso.icann.org
>
>
>
>
> --
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