[npoc-voice] Re: [NCSG-Discuss] Draft comment on Cyber-Cafe constituency application for approval

[Alain Berranger <alain.berranger@xxxxxxxxx>]

Yes Maria, but it would need support from other NPOC members besides
myself. Alain

On Saturday, November 17, 2012, Maria Farrell wrote:

> Does it make sense, then, to submit the piece as a joint ncuc/npoc
> comment, and not an ncsg one?
>
> I'd support that, as an ncuc member.
>
> On 17 November 2012 15:39, Alain Berranger <alain.berranger@xxxxxxxxx>wrote:
>
> Hi Mary,
>
> Thanks a lot for an excellent statement.
> On a personal basis, I agree with much of the spirit of your proposed
> comment and take the opportunity to run it by NPOC-voice to solicit an NPOC
> wide view. However, as Avri points out, the NCSG-EC has to decide on a
> recommendation to the Board as per the timeline Robin indicated. So, it
> seems inappropriate for NCSG-EC to make a public comment at this early
> stage such as the one you suggest or any other one for that matter, as it
> would essentially have the effect of making a decision regarding the
> application during the public comment period.
>
> There are 2 points I would like to raise:
>
> 1) telecentres for social purposes, usually located in schools, clinics,
> community centers, remote villages, etc... - for instance see
> http://www.telecentre.org/ for a look inside the Telecentre movement -
> are non-commercial public access Internet points (PIAPs) while cybercafés
> are essentially commercial, even if located in very poor and under serviced
> areas, because they are mostly entrepreneurial in their organization, with
> a livelihood or profit making purpose. The former could be housed in NCSG
> (as Members) while the latter could be welcomed into CSG.
> 2) we should distinguish between the proponent and it's adequacy to be the
> leader of the creation of a new constituency and the need for a new
> constituency. If it is confirmed that there is a need for some kind of a
> new constituency, then NCSG-EC has to also decide on it's recommendation
> regarding if  the proponent is likely to adequately lead the creation of
> that new constituency.
>
> I hope this helps! Alain
>
>
> On Saturday, November 17, 2012, wrote:
>
>  Hello everyone,
>
>  Since today is the last day for public comment on the proposed new
> cybercafe constituency and nothing has been sent in, I took the liberty of
> composing something brief that I hope members can approve. I've done so as
> many members have expressed firm opinions about this issue, and it is
> important that NCSG sends in a comment, especially since the group is
> applying to join NCSG.
>
>  The proposed comment follow; if there is no objection by the end of the
> day, I propose to file it on behalf of NCSG. Thanks everyone!
>
>  "The Non-Commercial Stakeholder Group (NCSG) is pleased to see that
> there is increased interest from developing regions in ICANN participation.
> Having long been the most-diverse (geographically and ethnically)
> stakeholder group within not just the GNSO but ICANN as well, we have
> always made outreach, accessibility and engagement part of our mission and
> have as a result welcomed numerous new individual and organizational
> members from across the globe into our membership, including through the
> GNSO's newest constituency, the Not for Profit Operational Concerns (NPOC)
> constituency.
>
>  There is consensus in the NCSG - from both NPOC and Non-Commerciaul
> Users Constituency (NCUC) members - that the new CCAOI application for
> constituency status belongs not in the NCSG but in the Commercial
> Stakeholders Group (CSG). We have carefully reviewed all the documents and
> information provided in the CCAOI's application, and believe that it is a
> commercial organization whose operations do not fit within NCSG's formal
> charter or objectives.
>
>  The CCAOI's stated reason for applying to join NCSG is that it is a
> non-profit organization which among its activities promotes public interest
> goals of education and access. While non-profit organizations are members
> of NCSG's NPOC constituency, NPOC members must first and continue to be
> NCSG members as well, i.e., remain resolutely non-co
>
>

-- 
Alain Berranger, B.Eng, MBA
Member, Board of Directors, CECI,
http://www.ceci.ca<http://www.ceci.ca/en/about-ceci/team/board-of-directors/>
Executive-in-residence, Schulich School of Business, www.schulich.yorku.ca
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