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[npoc-voice] Fwd: NPOC recording and transcript - 20 January 2014
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Asunto: Fwd: NPOC recording and transcript - 20 January 2014
De: "marie-laure Lemineur" <mllemineur@xxxxxxxxx>
Fecha: Lun, 20 de Enero de 2014, 6:13 pm
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From: Julia Charvolen <julia.charvolen@xxxxxxxxx>
Date: Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 3:14 PM
Subject: NPOC recording and transcript - 20 January 2014
To: Marie Laure Lemineur <mllemineur@xxxxxxxxx>, Klaus Stoll <
klaus.stoll@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, Rudi Vansnick <rudi.vansnick@xxxxxxx>
Cc: "gnso-secs@xxxxxxxxx" <gnso-secs@xxxxxxxxx>
Dear all,
Please find here the attendance and the MP3 recording of the Monthly NPOC
call held today on the 20 January 2014. The AC Chat can be found below.
*Attendees*: Klaus Stoll, Rudi Vansnick, Cintra Sooknanan, Marie-Laure
Lemineur, Glenn McKnight, Artak Barseghy, Lori Schulman, Sam Lanfranco
*Apologies:* Danilo Piaggesi, Olevie Kouami
*Staff:* Julia Charvolen
*MP3 recording: *
http://ftp.adigo.com/clients/icann/20140120_NPOC_ID847673.zip
*AC Chat transcript , 20 January 2014:*
Nathalie Peregrine:Dear all, welcome to the NPOC Open Policy call on the
20th January 2014 at 1900 UTC
Rudi Vansnick:a good morning, afternoon, evening to everyone ... best
wishes for 2014
Julia Charvolen:@ guest: Could you please give your name for attendance
purposes please
Rudi Vansnick:Cintra can you speak or do you only have Adobe connect ?
Marie-laure Lemineur:hello Artak
Marie-laure Lemineur:welcome to our conference call
Artak Barseghyan:Hello
Julia Charvolen:@ all - Please mute your speaker/ mic if you are not
speaking because this creates an echo
Julia Charvolen:thank you
Marie-laure Lemineur:Good to have you Sam and Artak
Artak Barseghyan:thanks for welcome
Rudi Vansnick:is the recording started ?
Klaus Stoll 2:I can not participate in this way when I hear everything
double
Sam Lanfranco:Klaus, you are logged in twice
Julia Charvolen:@all - Please confirm you cann all hear the Adobe Connect
Klaus Stoll 2:No longer, Thanks Sam!!!!!!!
Julia Charvolen:Cintra has bad connection this is why she is entering and
leaving the AC room
Cintra Sooknanan:Dialled in ... hello everyone
Marie-laure Lemineur:hello Cintra
Julia Charvolen:Glenn McKnight joined the Adobe Connect
Marie-laure Lemineur:hi Glenn
Glenn McKNight:Hi
Rudi Vansnick:The GNSO Council recommended the creation of an Issue
Report to further research metrics and reporting needs with the aim of
improving the policy development process. The report created by ICANN Staff
outlined accomplishments regarding reporting and metrics by the Contractual
Compliance function and it also reviewed other reporting sources that may
be of relevance.
Glenn McKNight:Adobe Connect audio
Rudi Vansnick:on this motion again it is about "restarting" work already
done ...
Glenn McKNight:Hi Sam, speak to you later
Rudi Vansnick:welcome Glenn
Glenn McKNight:Hi all, thanks Rudi
Glenn McKNight:Almost missed this call
Glenn McKNight:I gave feedback to the METRICS committee at last ICANN
meetings
Glenn McKNight:The onlus was on 'penalties' not acknowledgements of hard
work
Glenn McKNight:onus
Glenn McKNight:I think you need a NPOC separate statement
Glenn McKNight:It might be different
Rudi Vansnick:exactly
Glenn McKNight:A statement and action items
Rudi Vansnick:@Lori : agreed
Glenn McKNight:Too much is statements without solutions
Glenn McKNight:Simple Results Based Solutions,
Rudi Vansnick:very good point Lori
Glenn McKNight:Lori and I are stating the same thing
Glenn McKNight:I think
Rudi Vansnick:i prefer also a recommendation in stead of statement
Glenn McKNight:The statement might be very similar but small differences
give insight into the philosophy and approach of NPOC
Glenn McKNight:Yes
Rudi Vansnick:+1 Lori !!!
Klaus Stoll 2:Go Lori Go!!!!
Rudi Vansnick:i would like to discuss the membership issue in AOB !
Glenn McKNight:I have an item under Item 3
Rudi Vansnick:the comment period opens only on 21 february
Glenn McKNight:ok
Rudi Vansnick:exactly Glenn !
Julia Charvolen:Lori Schulman joined the Adobe Connect
Rudi Vansnick:they ends on March !
Rudi Vansnick:@Glenn +1
Rudi Vansnick:that format was created for specific people !!
Sam Lanfranco:RE: .health, I am in discussions with a wide range of
stakeholders and I fear that ICANN doesn't understand the hornets nest that
won't go away here, auction or not.
Rudi Vansnick:Sam please keep you hand up to speak ! ;-)
Glenn McKNight:I have applied for funding for ARIN, NTEN and the ADA
Symposium
Glenn McKNight:All conferences in the US
Rudi Vansnick:please drop hands if you do not want to speak ;)
Cintra Sooknanan:RIR
Rudi Vansnick:June minus 6 weeks upfront !
Glenn McKNight:one moe thing
Rudi Vansnick:who is the chair of that WG ?
Rudi Vansnick:gomez chuck
Sam Lanfranco:I am looking at problems with the GNSO Policy &
Implementation Definitions and will share them with NPOC shortly
Rudi Vansnick:Agreed
Rudi Vansnick:clap clap
Cintra Sooknanan:it is valuable that the chair represents the commercial
group and the vice chair coming from the non commercial group adds some
balance
Marie-laure Lemineur:yes good point
Glenn McKNight:one more thing
Glenn McKNight:other business
Rudi Vansnick:good point : nomcom issue is still pending !
Rudi Vansnick:@Glenn : +1
Rudi Vansnick:i have no other comment to add, well dressed Cintra
Rudi Vansnick:Glenn : it is a problem that is not going to be solved as
it is clear the non-profit world is not well seen in ICANN (we do not bring
money to the pot !)
Glenn McKNight:i know
Marie-laure Lemineur:congrats on you joining the GKPF Board!!!!!
Rudi Vansnick:thanks
Glenn McKNight:Sorry folks got to go
Glenn McKNight:Bye
Marie-laure Lemineur:bye thks a lot....happy to have you with us for this
first 2014 acall!!!
Rudi Vansnick:thanks a lot Glenn
Rudi Vansnick:talk to you later
Cintra Sooknanan:Rudi please count on my support for working on the
charter
Sam Lanfranco:What are the time lines on this?
Rudi Vansnick:many thanks Cintra
Cintra Sooknanan:no it's ok thanks
Cintra Sooknanan:trying to lower hand but a lag
Rudi Vansnick:July we need to be able to implement the charter
Rudi Vansnick:there is not that much work, it is rather a question of
consensus
Sam Lanfranco:I can help and would suggest the group using a wiki space
for this task
Cintra Sooknanan:Rudi would you recommend us setting up a separate
monthly/weekly call for this NPOC Charter Review WG?
Rudi Vansnick:I will propose to do the work ona wiki
Cintra Sooknanan:ok great
Rudi Vansnick:and 1 call to explain, another call to clause the debates
Rudi Vansnick:clause = close
Rudi Vansnick:next call please put membership on the agenda
Cintra Sooknanan:thank you for chairing Marie Laure, this was a good
first policy meeting
Rudi Vansnick:thanks for all present ! great to have you here
Sam Lanfranco:Ciao/Chau
Cintra Sooknanan:take care everyone have a great evening
Cintra Sooknanan:ciao
Artak Barseghyan:Thanks
Artak Barseghyan:bye thank you all
Thank you,
Julia Charvolen
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Date: Mon, Jan 20, 2014 at 3:14 PM<br>Subject: NPOC recording and transcript -
20 January 2014<br>To: Marie Laure Lemineur <<a
href="mailto:mllemineur@xxxxxxxxx";>mllemineur@xxxxxxxxx</a>>, Klaus Stoll
<<a
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<div style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:15px">Dear
all,</span></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in
0.0001pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif"><span
style="font-size:15px"><span
style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"> </span><span
style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><u></u><u></u></span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-family:'Times New
Roman',serif"><span style="font-size:15px"><span
style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Please find here the attendance and the
MP3 recording of the Monthly NPOC call held today on the 20 January 2014. <span
style="color:rgb(31,73,125)">T</span>he AC Chat can be found below.</span><span
style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><u></u><u></u></span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-family:'Times New
Roman',serif"><span style="font-size:15px"><span
style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"> </span><span
style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><u></u><u></u></span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-family:'Times New
Roman',serif"><span style="font-size:15px"><b><span
style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Attendees</span></b><span
style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">: </span><span
style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Klaus Stoll, Rudi Vansnick, Cintra
Sooknanan, Marie-Laure Lemineur, Glenn McKnight, Artak Barseghy, Lori Schulman,
Sam Lanfranco</span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-family:'Times New
Roman',serif"><span
style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:15px"> </span></p><p
class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-family:'Times New
Roman',serif">
<span style="font-size:15px"><b><span
style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Apologies:</span></b><span
style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"> </span><span
style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Danilo Piaggesi, Olevie
Kouami</span></span></p>
<div style="font-family:Calibri"><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in
0.0001pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif"><span
style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:15px"> </span></p></div><p
class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-family:'Times New
Roman',serif">
<span style="font-size:15px"><b><span
style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">Staff:</span></b><span
style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"> Julia Charvolen</span><span
style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><u></u><u></u></span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-family:'Times New
Roman',serif"><br></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in
0.0001pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif"><span
style="font-size:15px"><span
style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"> </span><span
style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"><u></u><u></u></span></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="font-family:'Times New
Roman',serif;margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt"><span style="font-size:15px"><b><span
style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">MP3 recording: </span></b><span
style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif"> </span></span><a
href="http://ftp.adigo.com/clients/icann/20140120_NPOC_ID847673.zip";
style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:15px" target="_blank"><font
color="#0000ff">http://ftp.adigo.com/clients/icann/20140120_NPOC_ID847673.zip</font></a></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-family:'Times New
Roman',serif"><br></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in
0.0001pt;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif"><span
style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125);font-size:15px"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-family:'Times New
Roman',serif"><span
style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:15px"><b>AC Chat transcript ,
20 January 2014:</b></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"
style="font-size:12pt;margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt">
</p><div style="font-size:medium"> Nathalie Peregrine:Dear all, welcome to the
NPOC Open Policy call on the 20th January 2014 at 1900 UTC</div><div
style="font-size:medium"> Rudi Vansnick:a good morning, afternoon, evening to
everyone ... best wishes for 2014</div>
<div style="font-size:medium"> Julia Charvolen:@ guest: Could you please give
your name for attendance purposes please</div><div
style="font-size:medium"> Rudi Vansnick:Cintra can you speak or do you only
have Adobe connect ?</div>
<div style="font-size:medium"> Marie-laure Lemineur:hello Artak</div><div
style="font-size:medium"> Marie-laure Lemineur:welcome to our conference
call</div><div style="font-size:medium"> Artak Barseghyan:Hello</div><div
style="font-size:medium">
Julia Charvolen:@ all - Please mute your speaker/ mic if you are not speaking
because this creates an echo</div><div style="font-size:medium"> Julia
Charvolen:thank you</div><div style="font-size:medium"> Marie-laure
Lemineur:Good to have you Sam and Artak</div>
<div style="font-size:medium"> Artak Barseghyan:thanks for welcome</div><div
style="font-size:medium"> Rudi Vansnick:is the recording started ?</div><div
style="font-size:medium"> Klaus Stoll 2:I can not participate in this way when
I hear everything double</div>
<div style="font-size:medium"> Sam Lanfranco:Klaus, you are logged in
twice</div><div style="font-size:medium"> Julia Charvolen:@all - Please
confirm you cann all hear the Adobe Connect</div><div style="font-size:medium">
Klaus Stoll 2:No longer, Thanks Sam!!!!!!!</div><div
style="font-size:medium"> Julia Charvolen:Cintra has bad connection this is
why she is entering and leaving the AC room</div><div
style="font-size:medium"> Cintra Sooknanan:Dialled in ... hello everyone</div>
<div style="font-size:medium"> Marie-laure Lemineur:hello Cintra</div><div
style="font-size:medium"> Julia Charvolen:Glenn McKnight joined the Adobe
Connect</div><div style="font-size:medium"> Marie-laure Lemineur:hi Glenn</div>
<div style="font-size:medium"> Glenn McKNight:Hi</div><div
style="font-size:medium"> Rudi Vansnick:The GNSO Council recommended the
creation of an Issue Report to further research metrics and reporting needs
with the aim of improving the policy development process. The report created by
ICANN Staff outlined accomplishments regarding reporting and metrics by the
Contractual Compliance function and it also reviewed other reporting sources
that may be of relevance.</div>
<div style="font-size:medium"> Glenn McKNight:Adobe Connect audio</div><div
style="font-size:medium"> Rudi Vansnick:on this motion again it is about
"restarting" work already done ...</div><div style="font-size:medium">
Glenn McKNight:Hi Sam, speak to you later</div><div
style="font-size:medium"> Rudi Vansnick:welcome Glenn</div><div
style="font-size:medium"> Glenn McKNight:Hi all, thanks Rudi</div><div
style="font-size:medium"> Glenn McKNight:Almost missed this call</div>
<div style="font-size:medium"> Glenn McKNight:I gave feedback to the
METRICS committee at last ICANN meetings</div><div
style="font-size:medium"> Glenn McKNight:The onlus was on 'penalties'
not acknowledgements of hard work</div>
<div style="font-size:medium"> Glenn McKNight:onus</div><div
style="font-size:medium"> Glenn McKNight:I think you need a NPOC separate
statement</div><div style="font-size:medium"> Glenn McKNight:It might be
different</div>
<div style="font-size:medium"> Rudi Vansnick:exactly</div><div
style="font-size:medium"> Glenn McKNight:A statement and action
items</div><div style="font-size:medium"> Rudi Vansnick:@Lori :
agreed</div><div style="font-size:medium">
Glenn McKNight:Too much is statements without solutions</div><div
style="font-size:medium"> Glenn McKNight:Simple Results Based
Solutions,</div><div style="font-size:medium"> Rudi Vansnick:very good point
Lori</div>
<div style="font-size:medium"> Glenn McKNight:Lori and I are stating the same
thing</div><div style="font-size:medium"> Glenn McKNight:I think</div><div
style="font-size:medium"> Rudi Vansnick:i prefer also a recommendation in
stead of statement</div>
<div style="font-size:medium"> Glenn McKNight:The statement might be very
similar but small differences give insight into the philosophy and approach of
NPOC</div><div style="font-size:medium"> Glenn McKNight:Yes</div>
<div style="font-size:medium"> Rudi Vansnick:+1 Lori !!!</div><div
style="font-size:medium"> Klaus Stoll 2:Go Lori Go!!!!</div><div
style="font-size:medium"> Rudi Vansnick:i would like to discuss the membership
issue in AOB !</div>
<div style="font-size:medium"> Glenn McKNight:I have an item under Item
3</div><div style="font-size:medium"> Rudi Vansnick:the comment period opens
only on 21 february</div><div style="font-size:medium"> Glenn McKNight:ok</div>
<div style="font-size:medium"> Rudi Vansnick:exactly Glenn !</div><div
style="font-size:medium"> Julia Charvolen:Lori Schulman joined the Adobe
Connect</div><div style="font-size:medium"> Rudi Vansnick:they ends on March
!</div>
<div style="font-size:medium"> Rudi Vansnick:@Glenn +1</div><div
style="font-size:medium"> Rudi Vansnick:that format was created for specific
people !!</div><div style="font-size:medium"> Sam Lanfranco:RE: .health, I am
in discussions with a wide range of stakeholders and I fear that ICANN
doesn't understand the hornets nest that won't go away here, auction or
not.</div>
<div style="font-size:medium"> Rudi Vansnick:Sam please keep you hand up to
speak ! ;-)</div><div style="font-size:medium"> Glenn McKNight:I have applied
for funding for ARIN, NTEN and the ADA Symposium</div><div
style="font-size:medium">
Glenn McKNight:All conferences in the US</div><div
style="font-size:medium"> Rudi Vansnick:please drop hands if you do not want
to speak ;)</div><div style="font-size:medium"> Cintra Sooknanan:RIR</div><div
style="font-size:medium">
Rudi Vansnick:June minus 6 weeks upfront !</div><div
style="font-size:medium"> Glenn McKNight:one moe thing</div><div
style="font-size:medium"> Rudi Vansnick:who is the chair of that WG
?</div><div style="font-size:medium">
Rudi Vansnick:gomez chuck</div><div style="font-size:medium"> Sam
Lanfranco:I am looking at problems with the GNSO Policy & Implementation
Definitions and will share them with NPOC shortly</div><div
style="font-size:medium">
Rudi Vansnick:Agreed</div><div style="font-size:medium"> Rudi Vansnick:clap
clap</div><div style="font-size:medium"> Cintra Sooknanan:it is valuable that
the chair represents the commercial group and the vice chair coming from the
non commercial group adds some balance</div>
<div style="font-size:medium"> Marie-laure Lemineur:yes good point</div><div
style="font-size:medium"> Glenn McKNight:one more thing</div><div
style="font-size:medium"> Glenn McKNight:other business</div><div
style="font-size:medium">
Rudi Vansnick:good point : nomcom issue is still pending !</div><div
style="font-size:medium"> Rudi Vansnick:@Glenn : +1</div><div
style="font-size:medium"> Rudi Vansnick:i have no other comment to add, well
dressed Cintra</div>
<div style="font-size:medium"> Rudi Vansnick:Glenn : it is a problem that is
not going to be solved as it is clear the non-profit world is not well seen in
ICANN (we do not bring money to the pot !)</div><div style="font-size:medium">
Glenn McKNight:i know</div><div style="font-size:medium"> Marie-laure
Lemineur:congrats on you joining the GKPF Board!!!!!</div><div
style="font-size:medium"> Rudi Vansnick:thanks</div><div
style="font-size:medium"> Glenn McKNight:Sorry folks got to go</div>
<div style="font-size:medium"> Glenn McKNight:Bye</div><div
style="font-size:medium"> Marie-laure Lemineur:bye thks a lot....happy to have
you with us for this first 2014 acall!!!</div><div
style="font-size:medium"> Rudi Vansnick:thanks a lot Glenn</div>
<div style="font-size:medium"> Rudi Vansnick:talk to you later</div><div
style="font-size:medium"> Cintra Sooknanan:Rudi please count on my support for
working on the charter</div><div style="font-size:medium"> Sam Lanfranco:What
are the time lines on this?</div>
<div style="font-size:medium"> Rudi Vansnick:many thanks Cintra</div><div
style="font-size:medium"> Cintra Sooknanan:no it's ok thanks</div><div
style="font-size:medium"> Cintra Sooknanan:trying to lower hand but a lag</div>
<div style="font-size:medium"> Rudi Vansnick:July we need to be able to
implement the charter</div><div style="font-size:medium"> Rudi Vansnick:there
is not that much work, it is rather a question of consensus</div><div
style="font-size:medium">
Sam Lanfranco:I can help and would suggest the group using a wiki space for
this task</div><div style="font-size:medium"> Cintra Sooknanan:Rudi would you
recommend us setting up a separate monthly/weekly call for this NPOC Charter
Review WG?</div>
<div style="font-size:medium"> Rudi Vansnick:I will propose to do the work ona
wiki</div><div style="font-size:medium"> Cintra Sooknanan:ok great</div><div
style="font-size:medium"> Rudi Vansnick:and 1 call to explain, another call to
clause the debates</div>
<div style="font-size:medium"> Rudi Vansnick:clause = close</div><div
style="font-size:medium"> Rudi Vansnick:next call please put membership on the
agenda</div><div style="font-size:medium"> Cintra Sooknanan:thank you for
chairing Marie Laure, this was a good first policy meeting</div>
<div style="font-size:medium"> Rudi Vansnick:thanks for all present ! great to
have you here</div><div style="font-size:medium"> Sam
Lanfranco:Ciao/Chau</div><div style="font-size:medium"> Cintra Sooknanan:take
care everyone have a great evening</div>
<div style="font-size:medium"> Cintra Sooknanan:ciao</div><div
style="font-size:medium"> Artak Barseghyan:Thanks</div><div
style="font-size:medium"> Artak Barseghyan:bye thank you all</div><div
style="font-size:medium">
<br></div><div style="font-size:medium"><br></div><div
style="font-size:medium"><p class="MsoNormal"
style="font-size:14px;font-family:'Times New Roman',serif;margin:0in
0in 0.0001pt"><span style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:15px">Thank
you,</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:14px;font-family:'Times New
Roman',serif;margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt"><span
style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;font-size:15px">Julia
Charvolen</span></p></div><div style="font-family:'Times New
Roman',serif">
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