[npoc] Fwd: [NCSG-Discuss] Fwd: Input Request: 'thick' Whois SG/C Template

[Alain Berranger <alain.berranger@xxxxxxxxx>]

Dear Rudi, dear Marie-laure:

I would like to introduce the two of you to each other for mutual
collaboration within the remit of NPOC.

Marie-laure, Rudi heads up ISOC-Belgium and ISOC-BE has just applied for
NCSG/NPOC membership (Thanks to Cintra for actively pursuing this avenue!).
Rudi is on the Board of ISOC and is now aware that you are on the Advisory
Board of PIR.org . Rudi will progressively get more involved in NPOC's
affairs, notably in policy comment and development and will hit full speed
around Beijing time (April). Rudi will be in Beijing and I suppose you
Marie-laure will be too. Rudi is willing to bring his expertise and
experience to support NPOC nescent policy work right away and he can very
much start by supporting you in your early work on the “thick” Whois PDP
 Working Group, if that agrees with him.

Rudi is based in Belgium and I know Marie-laure that you are spending the
next 3 months in Europe, so maybe the two of you can get together at some
point perhaps?

Warm regards to the two of you and good collaboration! NPOC's policy work
takes off!

Cheers, Alain

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Alain Berranger <alain.berranger@xxxxxxxxx>
Date: Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 5:36 PM
Subject: Re: [NCSG-Discuss] Fwd: Input Request: 'thick' Whois SG/C Template
To: William Drake <william.drake@xxxxxx>
Cc: NCSG-DISCUSS@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, mlemineur@xxxxxxxxxxxx


Hi

NPOC inputs are also solicited. Marie-laure Lemineur, NPOC's Program
Committee Chair, has joined the “thick” Whois PDP  Working Group. Maybe we
can work towards an NCSG wide input?

Best, Alain


On Sat, Dec 8, 2012 at 1:50 AM, William Drake <william.drake@xxxxxx> wrote:

> Hi
>
> Again NCUC inputs are being actively solicited.  There's a group of
> Councilors that I believe includes Wendy and Mary who've been closely
> engaged on this, plus more recently two of our academic members, Roy
> Balleste and Joana Kulesza, have decided to sink their teeth into this.
>  There may other members here who'd take an interest as well.  May I
> suggest that anyone who'd like to help craft a timely and cutting ed
> response be in touch with the above ASAP?  Again, let's broaden the circle
> of involvement if we can….
>
> Best,
>
> Bill
>
> Begin forwarded message:
>
> *From: *Glen de Saint Géry <Glen@xxxxxxxxx>
> *Date: *December 5, 2012 6:36:45 PM GMT+04:00
> *To: *William Drake <william.drake@xxxxxx>
> *Cc: *Robin Gross <robin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>, "gnso-secs@xxxxxxxxx" <
> gnso-secs@xxxxxxxxx>, Marika Konings <marika.konings@xxxxxxxxx>
> *Subject: **Input Request: 'thick' Whois SG/C Template *
>
> ** **
> Dear Bill,****
> ** **
> The “thick” Whois PDP  Working Group would appreciate the NCUC’s input
> through the attached  Input Template also in text below:
> Thank you.****
> Kind regards,****
> ** **
> Glen****
> ** **
> *Stakeholder Group / Constituency / Input Template ‘thick’ Whois PDP
> Working Group that the Working Group*****
> ** **
> PLEASE SUBMIT YOUR RESPONSE AT THE LATEST *BY 9 January 2012* TO THE GNSO
> SECRETARIAT (*gnso.secretariat@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx*), which will forward your
> statement to the Working Group. If additional time is needed by your SG / C
> to provide your feedback, please inform the secretariat accordingly,
> including the expected delivery date so that this can be factored in by the
> WG.****
> ** **
> The GNSO Council has formed a Working Group of interested stakeholders and
> Stakeholder Group / Constituency representatives, to collaborate broadly
> with knowledgeable individuals and organizations, in order to consider
> recommendations in relation to ‘thick’ Whois.****
> ** **
> Part of the working group’s effort will be to incorporate ideas and
> suggestions gathered from Stakeholder Groups, Constituencies through this
> template Statement. Please note that the WG is currently in an
> information-gathering phase. Inserting your response in this form will make
> it much easier for the Working Group to summarize the responses. This
> information is helpful to the community in understanding the points of view
> of various stakeholders. However, you should feel free to add any
> information you deem important to inform the working group’s deliberations,
> even if this does not fit into any of the questions listed below.****
> ** **
> For further information, please visit the WG Workspace (
> https://community.icann.org/display/PDP/Home).****
> ** **
> *Process*
>
> -        Please identify the member(s) of your stakeholder group /
> constituency who is (are) participating in this working group****
>
> -        Please identify the members of your stakeholder group /
> constituency who participated in developing the perspective(s) set forth
> below****
>
> -        Please describe the process by which your stakeholder group /
> constituency arrived at the perspective(s) set forth below****
>
> -        If not indicated otherwise, the WG will consider your submission
> a SG / C position / contribution. Please note that this should not prevent
> the submission of individual and/or minority views as part of your
> submission, as long as these are clearly identified.****
> * *
> *Topics:*
> ** **
> The WG is tasked to provide the GNSO Council with a policy recommendation
> regarding the use of ‘thick’ Whois by all gTLD Registries, both existing
> and future. As part of its deliberations, the WG is expected to consider
> the topics listed below in the context of ‘thick’ Whois. Please provide
> your stakeholder group’s / constituency’s views, including quantitative
> and/or empirical information supporting your views, on these topics in
> relation to whether or not to require ‘thick’ Whois for all gTLDs and/or
> provide any information that you think will help the WG in its
> deliberations (for further information on each of these topics, please see
> the WG Charterhttps://community.icann.org/x/vIg3Ag):****
> ** **
> ·        Response consistency - a ‘thick’ Registry can dictate the
> labeling and display of Whois information to be sure the information is
> easy to parse, and all Registrars/clients would have to display it
> accordingly. This could be considered a benefit but also a potential cost.
> This might also be a benefit in the context of internationalized
> registration data as even with the use of different scripts, uniform data
> collection and display standards could be applied.****
> *Your view:*
> ** **
> ·        Stability - in the event of a Registrar business or technical
> failure, it could be beneficial to ICANN and registrants to have the full
> set of domain registration contact data stored by four organizations (the
> Registry, the Registry's escrow agent, the Registrar, and the Registrar's
> escrow agent), which would be the case in a ‘thick’ registry.****
> *Your view:*
> ** **
> ·        Accessibility - is the provision of Whois information at the
> registry level under the ‘thick’ Whois model more effective and
> cost-effective than a ‘thin’ model in protecting consumers and users of
> Whois data and intellectual property owners?****
> *Your view:*
> ** **
> ·        Impact on privacy and data protection - how would ‘thick’ Whois
> affect privacy and data protection, also taking into account the
> involvement of different jurisdictions with different laws and legislation
> with regard to data privacy as well as possible cross border transfers of
> registrant data?****
> *Your view:*
> ** **
> ·        Cost implications - what are the cost implications of a
> transition to 'thick' Whois for Registries, Registrars, registrants and
> other parties for all gTLDs? Conversely, what are the cost implications to
> Registries, Registrars, registrants and other parties if no transition is
> mandated?****
> *Your view:*
> ** **
> ·        Synchronization/migration - what would be the impact on
> the registry and registrar WHOIS and EPP systems for those Registries
> currently operating a thin registry, both in the migration phase to ‘thick’
> WHOIS as well as ongoing operations?****
> *Your view:*
> ** **
> ·        Authoritativeness - what are the implications of a ‘thin’
> Registry possibly becoming authoritative for registrant Whois data
> following the transition from a thin-registry model to a thick-registry
> model. The Working Group should consider the term “authoritative” in both
> the technical (the repository of the authoritative data) and policy (who
> has authority over the data) meanings of the word when considering this
> issue.****
> *Your view:*
> ** **
> ·        Competition in registry services - what would be the impact on
> competition in registry services should all Registries be required to
> provide Whois service using the ‘thick’ Whois model – would there be more,
> less or no difference with regard to competition in registry services?****
> *Your view:*****
> ** **
> ·        Existing Whois Applications - What, if anything, are the
> potential impacts on the providers of third-party WHOIS-related
> applications if ‘thick’ WHOIS is required for all gtLDs?****
> *Your view:*
> ** **
> ·        Data escrow - ‘thick’ Whois might obviate the need for the
> registrar escrow program and attendant expenses to ICANN and registrars.**
> **
> *Your view:*
> ** **
> ·        Registrar Port 43 Whois requirements - ‘thick’ Whois could make
> the requirement for Registrars to maintain Port 43 Whois access redundant.
> ****
> *Your view:*
> ** **
> Based on your assessment of these topics, you are also encouraged to
> indicate whether you think there should or there shouldn’t be a requirement
> for ‘thick’ Whois by all gTLD Registries.****
> *Your view:*
> ** **
> If there is any other information you think should be considered by the WG
> as part of its deliberations, please feel free to include that here.****
> *Other information:*
> ** **
> ** **
> ** **
> ** **
> ** **
>
>
>
>
>


-- 
Alain Berranger, B.Eng, MBA
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Executive-in-residence, Schulich School of Business, www.schulich.yorku.ca
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