RE: If PIR is violating its own advisory charter, why do they expect to have .org renewed?

["Vint Cerf" <vint@xxxxxxxxxx>]

George,  

Presumptive renewal does not preclude the possibility that an organization
would not automatically be renewed. It would depend very much on the nature
of the inadequacy that might induce a decision to call for bids instead of
automatically renewing.

I assume you've drawn attention of PIR to this anomaly in the population of
their advisory group? 

Vint
 


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-----Original Message-----
From: George Kirikos [mailto:gkirikos@xxxxxxxxx] 
Sent: Friday, October 13, 2006 12:21 AM
To: ga@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx; org-tld-agreement@xxxxxxxxx
Cc: john.jeffrey@xxxxxxxxx; vint@xxxxxxxxxx
Subject: If PIR is violating its own advisory charter, why do they expect to
have .org renewed?

Hello,

According to the .org Advisory Council Charter:

http://www.pir.org/PDFs/pir_ac_charter.pdf

"Section 3:... No two members of the Council will be from the same
non-commercial organization."

Michael Mann and Angela Stuber are both from Grassroots.org:

http://www.pir.org/AboutPIR/CouncilMembers.aspx
http://www.grassroots.org/page.ww?section=Highlights&name=Content+Detail+-+V
olunteer
http://www.grassroots.org/page.ww?section=About&name=Board+of+Directors

Apparently, when this was brought to the attention of PIR, instead of
rectifying the issue, they "did not see a problem with it".

http://www.domainstate.com/showthread.php3?s=&postid=327276#post327276

I have nothing against Grassroots.org, but perhaps ICANN and the public
should seriously consider whether PIR, an organization that seemingly has no
regard for their own charter, should be operating such an important registry
as .org. Indeed, with presumptive renewal, it would be next to impossible to
remove a registry operator.

This is yet another reason why presumptive renewal should never exist in any
registry agreement.

Sincerely,

George Kirikos
http://www.kirikos.com/