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Re: [ga] If PIR is violating its own advisory charter, why do they expect to have .org renewed?

  • To: Hugh Dierker <hdierker2204@xxxxxxxxx>
  • Subject: Re: [ga] If PIR is violating its own advisory charter, why do they expect to have .org renewed?
  • From: Jeff Williams <jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sun, 15 Oct 2006 22:38:52 -0700

Dr. Dierker, George and all,

  Well it's clear that PIR doesn't adhear to it's own charter.  So
I can again only guess that either PIR has to fire Michael Mann
and Angela Stuber or the .ORG registry will have have to be
redesigned to another operator very soon.

Hugh Dierker wrote:

>    Presumptive renewel is a non-starter. It is exactly the opposite of
> how it should be. It should be presumptive open bidding on
> expirations.
>   However from an investor point of view i can see the necessity for
> such a concept. You need some sort of gauranteed continuance. But
> therein lies the problem with the gauranteed continuance there is no
> reason to follow the plan and every reason to hedge where you can to
> make money with no accountability.
>   e
> George Kirikos <gkirikos@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>   Hello,
> According to the .org Advisory Council Charter:
> http://www.pir.org/PDFs/pir_ac_charter.pdf
> "Section 3:... No two members of the Council will be from the same
> non-commercial organization."
> Michael Mann and Angela Stuber are both from Grassroots.org:
> http://www.pir.org/AboutPIR/CouncilMembers.aspx
> http://www.grassroots.org/page.ww?section=Highl
> ghts&name=Content+Detail+-+Volunteer
> http://www.grassroots.org/page.ww?se
> tion=About&name=Board+of+Directors
> Apparently, when this was brought to the attention of PIR, instead of
> rectifying the issue, they "did not see a problem with it".
> http://www.domainstate.com/showthread.php3?s=&postid=327276#post327276
> I have nothing against Grassroots.org, but perhaps ICANN and the
> public
> should seriously consider whether PIR, an organization that seemingly
> has no regard for their own charter, should be operating such an
> important registry as .org. Indeed, with presumptive renewal, it would
> be next to impossible to remove a registry operator.
> This is yet another reason why presumptive renewal should never exist
> in any registry agreement.
> Sincerely,
> George Kirikos
> http://www.kirikos.com/

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