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RE: [pdp-pcceg-feb06] Term of Reference 5: Conference Call Reminder 23 January

  • To: "'Neuman, Jeff'" <Jeff.Neuman@xxxxxxxxxx>, "'Avri Doria'" <avri@xxxxxxx>, "'PDPfeb06'" <pdp-pcceg-feb06@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Subject: RE: [pdp-pcceg-feb06] Term of Reference 5: Conference Call Reminder 23 January
  • From: "Marilyn Cade" <marilynscade@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 11:39:57 -0500

Thanks, Jeff. Appreciate your update. Marilyn 

-----Original Message-----
From: Neuman, Jeff [mailto:Jeff.Neuman@xxxxxxxxxx] 
Sent: Monday, January 22, 2007 11:03 AM
To: Marilyn Cade; Avri Doria; PDPfeb06
Subject: RE: [pdp-pcceg-feb06] Term of Reference 5: Conference Call Reminder
23 January

Dear Marilyn,

The Registries constituency has received a request from ICANN staff on
providing information on the types of data collected (besides the
obvious WHOIS data of course).  We are working within the constituency
to provide a response.

Thanks.

Jeffrey J. Neuman, Esq. 
Sr. Director, Law, Advanced Services  & Business Development 

NeuStar, Inc. 


-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pdp-pcceg-feb06@xxxxxxxxx
[mailto:owner-pdp-pcceg-feb06@xxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Marilyn Cade
Sent: Monday, January 22, 2007 9:28 AM
To: 'Avri Doria'; 'PDPfeb06'
Subject: RE: [pdp-pcceg-feb06] Term of Reference 5: Conference Call
Reminder 23 January

Dear Avri and Liz

During the Council call, there was support for ensuring discussions with
'experts' that could provide more details about what is typically
included
in registry data and traffic data. Of course, that could include members
of
the registry constituency; but didn't need to be limited. 

Can you confirm that there will be such resources, from ICANN, or the
community, to join the call tomorrow at the beginning, so that we can
take
that discussion into account during the rest of the call? 

Regards

Marilyn Cade

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pdp-pcceg-feb06@xxxxxxxxx
[mailto:owner-pdp-pcceg-feb06@xxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Liz Williams
Sent: Monday, January 22, 2007 3:13 AM
To: PDPfeb06
Subject: [pdp-pcceg-feb06] Term of Reference 5: Conference Call Reminder
23
January

Colleagues

Please note the information set out below -- I haven't seen any  
responses to whether any further work is needed on the recommendation  
relating to 5a which is beyond that already contained in the existing  
registry contracts.

I have also not seen much further discussion of 5b beyond the  
agreement that there should be non-discriminatory access to information.

The next call for the PDP Feb 06 TF is 23 January 20H00 Brussels  
time.  Please have your constituency positions ready to complete  
these two elements of the work as expeditiously as possible to enable  
completion of the Task Force Report.

Kind regards.

Liz
...................................................

Liz Williams
Senior Policy Counselor
ICANN - Brussels
+32 2 234 7874 tel
+32 2 234 7848 fax
+32 497 07 4243 mob




Begin forwarded message:

> From: Liz Williams <liz.williams@xxxxxxxxx>
> Date: Thu 18 Jan 2007 14:00:46 GMT+01:00
> To: PDPfeb06 <pdp-pcceg-feb06@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: [pdp-pcceg-feb06] Term of Reference 5: Precis of existing  
> positions
>
> Colleagues
>
> I have been following the traffic on TOR 5 since the conference  
> call on Tuesday.  I don't know whether everyone is up to speed on  
> the views of each constituency and I have included a summary of the  
> positions so far.  We are working towards determining where there  
> is some level of agreement on two remaining questions which will be  
> discussed in the 23 Jan and 6 Feb conference calls.
>
> TERM OF REFERENCE 5
> Uses of registry data
>
> 5a Examine whether or not there should be a policy regarding the  
> use of registry data for purposes other than for which it was  
> collected, and if so, what the elements of that policy should be.
>
> Policy Recommendation Q:  There should be a policy regarding the  
> use of registry data [which includes traffic data] for purposes  
> other than that for which it was
> collected.
>
> Yes: Registrar, NCUC, IPC, BC, ISP, RC
> No:  Registry
>
> Clear support for a policy regarding the use of registry data.
>
> The outstanding question is what the elements of that policy should  
> be beyond that which is already contained in the existing registry  
> contracts.  Please refer to the provision in the .org agreement as  
> a starting point.
>
> 3. 1(f) Traffic Data. Nothing in this Agreement shall preclude  
> Registry Operator from making commercial use of, or collecting,  
> traffic data regarding domain names or non-existent domain names  
> for purposes such as, without limitation, the determination of the  
> availability and health of the Internet, pinpointing specific  
> points of failure, characterizing attacks and misconfigurations,  
> identifying compromised networks and hosts and promoting the sale  
> of domain names, provided however, that such use does not permit  
> Registry Operator to disclose domain name registrant or end-user  
> information or other Personal Data as defined in Section 3.1(c)(ii)  
> that it collects through providing domain name registration  
> services for any purpose not otherwise authorized by this  
> agreement. In this regard, in the event the TLD registry is a  
> "thick" registry model, the traffic data that may be accessible to  
> and used by Registry Operator shall be limited to the data that  
> would be accessible to a registry operated under a "thin" registry  
> model. The process for the introduction of new Registry Services  
> shall not apply to such traffic data. Nothing contained in this  
> section 3.1(f) shall be deemed to constitute consent or  
> acquiescence by ICANN to an introduction by Registry Operator of a  
> service employing a universal wildcard function. To the extent that  
> traffic data subject to this provision is made available, access  
> shall be on terms that are nondiscriminatory.
>
> 5b. Determine whether any policy is necessary to ensure non- 
> discriminatory access to registry data that is made available to  
> third parties.
>
> Policy Recommendation R:   There should be a policy to ensure non- 
> discriminatory access to registry data that is made available, but  
> that policy should include safeguards on protection against misuse  
> of the data. [and that the work needs to be completed by the TF]
>
> Yes: Registrar, NCUC, IPC, BC, ISP, RC
> No:  Registry
>
> There is support for a policy to ensure non-discriminatory access  
> to registry data that is made available to third parties.
>
> Examples of elements of that policy should be equal pricing and  
> equal treatment on requests for data [not dissimilar to the  
> approach taken in the telecommunications world on incumbent  
> interconnection pricing]
>
> The safeguards on protection against misuse of the data need  
> further examination and require suggestions from the TF members.
>
> In preparation for our conference call on 23 January, please  
> provide further suggestions about possible policy elements on 5a  
> and 5b.
>
> Kind regards.
>
> Liz
>
> .....................................................
>
> Liz Williams
> Senior Policy Counselor
> ICANN - Brussels
> +32 2 234 7874 tel
> +32 2 234 7848 fax
> +32 497 07 4243 mob
>
>
>
>






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