RE: [soac-mapo] charter and mission

["Andrei Kolesnikov" <andrei@xxxxxxxx>]

Dear friends, I'm sorry for taking this issue to extreme 
and being a little provocative.

Milton, of course the idea of GAC being judges and ban TLDs
is not working, but the mechanics like this will
be very suitable for many countries because
it is predictable and traditional as it was already
mentioned. The better idea will be even if Rod
pick up and call up the names. This is a traditional
approach for many nations and societies in the world. 

As opposite, the panel idea, which I personally like, is not 
working and not suitable for many countries due to
MAPO itself.

In both cases: 
-->There are someone making decision or even saying 
my .blablabla is no good<-- 

Lets step back. 
I was thinking about the examples we using in this very 
interesting and exciting discussion. We are full of 
clichés ("China, Russia, Jew, BOYS"). We build
our logic on those archetypes. Our "western"
logic based on these stamps, education and experience.
Our morality is a LOCAL THING, yes, it was said. 
It works within country and local country MAPO is 
compatible with MAPO of selected number of countries. 
Again, as stamp-example Russian culture is 
sister of French culture, twin sister of USA culture and 
aunt of culture in Australia :) Mr.Putin may say that
Russia and China are sisters. I agree - they are 
sisters, brothers and lovers in common interests:
border, business, monetary values, oil/gaz, technology. 
But not in MAPO. 

There are "bad guys" (according to our clichés) 
around the corner. And ICANN/GAC/Community
will face it. And see how bad they are really.
The problem of ICANN that it always trying to
prove it's right to exist and control the address space.
Instead of going ahead and deal with real issues. 
Launch TLDs and see how it goes. 
Also there are beautiful XXX example which we should
refer to. 

--andrei


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Milton L Mueller [mailto:mueller@xxxxxxx]
> Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2010 5:38 PM
> To: 'Andrei Kolesnikov'; 'Philip Sheppard'; soac-mapo@xxxxxxxxx
> Subject: RE: [soac-mapo] charter and mission
> 
> Andrei
> Your concept simply doesn't work in a global network. Given ANY
> government (whose authority is confined to one national jurisdiction)
> the right to stop ICANN (which controls the _global_ namespace) from
> adding a TLD is to illegitimately and unlawfully extend that
> government's authority far beyond its proper bonds. To put it more
> directly, the Russian govt may have the power to censor the press and
> media in Russia, but it does not have any legitimate right to censor my
> speech in Syracuse, or in Germany or in Malaysia.
> 
> The idea of a single-state unilateral veto is not only a terrible idea
> on legal, moral and policy grounds, it was specifically rejected by the
> GAC.
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > I'm for the simple procedure of blocking ANYTHING
> > by giving the power to the individual GAC members
> > to object any TLD string. Then you blame country
> > he\she represents, not the ICANN.
> > It works very simple. If country is not in
> > GAC, it still have power to block it locally.
> > If country is presented - then its publically visible
> > and can be loudly aired.
> >
> > The function of MAPO objections cannot be in the
> > hands (panel) of individuals, internet gurus, religious
> > leaders, superheroes, space travelers, etc. It is
> > a function of governments (hopefully) representing
> > a population of certain territory and nation.
> > Half of the population in this world live outside
> > of the tradition of "public panels" made of "experts"
> > even if its "wide".
> >
> > --andrei
> >