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Comments of Various Companies and Organizations on the Preliminary Task Force Report on Whois Services

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  • Subject: Comments of Various Companies and Organizations on the Preliminary Task Force Report on Whois Services
  • From: "Self, Laurie" <lself@xxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2007 12:54:25 -0500

These comments on the Preliminary Task Force Report on Whois Services are 
respectfully submitted by the following:  

American Standard Inc.
Bank of America Corporation
Belo Corp.
Expedia, Inc.
First California Mortgage Company
International Federation of Film Producers Associations
International Video Federation
Marina District Development Company, LLC d/b/a Borgata Hotel Casino & Spa
The MCPS-PRS Alliance Limited
M Financial Holdings Incorporated
National Geographic Society
The Procter & Gamble Company

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January 15, 2007

Comments on the Preliminary Task Force Report on Whois Services

On behalf of the companies and organizations listed below, we write to provide 
our comments on key aspects of the Operational Point of Contact ("OPoC") and 
Special Circumstances Proposals contained in the Preliminary Task Force Report 
on Whois Services, and on the proposals for access to Whois data that are 
summarized on pages 24-27 of the Preliminary Task Force Report on Whois 
Services.  As discussed further below, we have significant concerns about and 
objections to the OPoC proposal.  We believe the Special Circumstances proposal 
strikes a better balance between addressing registered name holder ("RNH") 
privacy concerns while preserving the critical ability to access RNH contact 
data in a timely manner.  We also have concerns about and objections to many of 
the informal proposals for access to data no longer disclosed in Whois that are 
contained in pages 24-27 of the Preliminary Task Force Report.
OPoC Proposal

The OPoC proposal would eliminate from published Whois data the RNH's postal 
address, city, and postal code, and would eliminate all information - most 
notably the telephone number, fax number, and email address - for the 
administrative and technical contacts (collectively, the "RNH contact data").  
Only the RNH's name, state/province, and country will remain publicly 
accessible.  In most instances, it will be exceedingly difficult if not 
impossible to locate an individual RNH based solely on that accessible 
information.  Detailed contact information will be accessible only for the 
person or entity designated by the RNH as its OPoC.  Under the current 
proposal, the OPoC has no obligation to forward to the RNH any communications 
of any kind other than those directly related to resolving operational issues.  
Further, the OPoC proposal contains no "minimum qualification" requirements or 
standards for the OPoC.  Similarly absent is a requirement that the OPoC 
provide advance consent to being so designated.  Consequently, an individual 
RNH could designate his neighbor or former employer as the OPoC and the 
designee would not learn of its designation until a problem arose. 
The OPoC proposal will cause significant delays in accessing critical RNH 
contact data and may well effectively eliminate that access.  Such delays and 
elimination could cause harm to consumers, including the very consumers that 
the OPoC proposal is ostensibly intended to protect.  The OPoC proposal raises 
serious questions as to where (and how) a person with a legitimate interest in 
accessing the RNH's contact data could pursue that access and whether a U.S. 
court would ever grant it.  In addition, the OPoC proposal calls into question 
the ability of owners of U.S. trademarks and service marks to pursue in rem 
causes of action under the U.S. AntiCybersquatting Consumer Protection Act. 15 
U.S.C. § 1125(d) et seq..  In both circumstances, the RNH itself - the very 
person the OPoC proposal is ostensibly designed to protect - could be deprived 
of notice and the opportunity to be heard.  We elaborate on each point below.
On its face, the OPoC proposal will cause significant delays in accessing 
critical RNH contact data - postal and email addresses, and telephone numbers - 
and may well effectively eliminate that access.  Immediate access to such RNH 
contact data is critical for companies such as ours because it is essential to 
our ability to act promptly against cybersquatters, to stop quickly the online 
sale of counterfeit products, and/or to counteract immediately phishing schemes 
or other online fraud schemes.  (We note that the OPoC proposal is also devoid 
of any provision for providing law enforcement authorities with access to this 
RNH contact data.)  The longer a phishing scheme operates in association with a 
particular domain name, the greater the number of consumers who will be harmed 
financially and the greater the severity of that harm.  Similarly, the longer 
counterfeit products can be sold and offered for sale through a website 
associated with a particular domain name, the greater the number of consumers 
who will be harmed.  This is especially true for any counterfeit products 
capable of causing physical harm.  Finally, the longer a cybersquatter can use 
an infringing domain name, the greater the number of consumers who are likely 
to be harmed by consumer confusion.  Delays of even one day can, and do, entail 
significant consequences.
It has been suggested that the OPoC proposal, once implemented, would coexist 
with private registration services.  The overlay of private registration on top 
of OPoC would further exacerbate the delays and inaccessibility noted above.  
The OPoC proposal also raises serious questions as to where (and how) a person 
with a legitimate interest in accessing the RNH's excluded contact data could 
pursue that access, whether any U.S. court would grant such access, and how the 
RNH would receive notification of the proceeding.  We assume for purposes of 
illustration that the underlying claim (e.g., infringement, cybersquatting, 
counterfeiting, phishing) would be within the subject matter jurisdiction of a 
U.S. federal court and that both the registrar and RNH are domiciled in the 
United States.  
At a minimum, the OPoC proposal raises the following questions:  In which 
federal district court would a party pursue access?  The U.S. District Court 
for the Central District of California, where ICANN is located?  The federal 
district in which the registrar is located?  The federal district in which the 
ISP hosting the associated website (assuming there is one) is located?  The 
federal district where the RNH is located?  For those 24 states that contain 
more than one federal district, would the most populous district be considered 
the "default" district?  
Independent of the forum issue, how does one provide the RNH with service of 
process for the purpose of providing notice?  The name, state/province, and 
country information in the Whois record does not provide sufficient detail to 
permit service and the OPoC has no obligation to forward such communications or 
to accept service.  Will it be necessary for the party seeking access to the 
RNH contact data to have the court issue a subpoena to ICANN?  To the registry? 
 To the registrar?  
Even if a court were to allow the matter to proceed without service, it seems 
unlikely that, for example, the U.S. District Court for the Southern District 
of New York would entertain an action where the only basis for personal 
jurisdiction over the registered name holder-defendant were (i) the fact that 
Whois identified the RNH's state as New York; and (ii) the fact that the 
district is the most populous one in the state.  
With regard to specific actions, the OPoC proposal could prevent the owners of 
U.S. trademarks or service marks from using the principal method for obtaining 
in rem jurisdiction under the U.S. AntiCybersquatting Consumer Protection Act 
("ACPA"), 15 U.S.C. § 1125(d) et seq, and could, in light of the issues noted 
above, potentially preclude all claims under ACPA.  ACPA provides for two 
causes of action - in rem against the domain name itself and in personam 
against the domain name registrant/registered name holder.  In light of the 
difficulties noted above, most owners of U.S. marks may have no alternative but 
to seek to proceed in rem instead of in personam.  
Under ACPA, a mark owner usually obtains in rem jurisdiction by showing that it 
was not able to find a person who would have been a defendant even though the 
owner exercised due diligence by "sending a notice of the alleged violation and 
intent to proceed under this paragraph to the registrant of the domain name at 
the post and e-mail address provided by the registrant to the registrar; and 
publishing notice of the action as the court may direct promptly after filing 
the action."  15 U.S.C. § 1125(d)(2)(A)(ii)(II).  The trademark owner obviously 
cannot send any such notice of alleged violation to the RNH's post and e-mail 
addresses if the owner does not have access to those addresses.  The OPoC 
proposal excludes those addresses from the published Whois data.
The other method for obtaining in rem jurisdiction under ACPA is to persuade 
the court to find that the owner "is not able to obtain in personam 
jurisdiction over a person who would have been a defendant in a civil action 
under [§ 1125(d)(1)]."  Courts could potentially make such a finding based 
solely on the trademark owner's recitation of the inability to access RNH 
contact data sufficient to establish personal jurisdiction anywhere.  The mark 
owner would then proceed in rem, which might effectively deprive the RNH of 
notice and the opportunity to be heard.  
Alternatively, courts might find that the trademark owner had not met its 
burden of showing an inability to obtain in personam jurisdiction and, as a 
result, refuse to allow the owner to proceed in rem.  Under such circumstances, 
the trademark owner could not proceed under ACPA either in personam or in rem.
Finally, we also have some concern about the portion of the OPoC proposal 
relating to complaints about inaccurate Whois data.  The proposed "remedy" for 
an RNH's failure to update or correct the alleged inaccurate Whois data is to 
place the domain name on "hold."  Regardless of whether placing a domain name 
on "hold" means either that the name will continue to resolve but no changes 
can be made to the registration or that the name will not resolve and no 
changes can be made to the registration, this "remedy" is insufficient.  
Because complaints about Whois data accuracy are most likely to arise when the 
domain name is being used in a way objectionable to the complaining party, 
allowing the domain name to continue to resolve perpetuates the objectionable 
use.  Similarly, permitting the RNH to maintain the registration despite its 
willful failure to correct or update its Whois data also perpetuates the 
objectionable conduct.  
For these reasons, we encourage rejection of the current OPoC proposal.
Special Circumstances Proposal

We believe that the Special Circumstances proposal strikes a better balance 
between privacy concerns while preserving the critical ability to access RNH 
contact data in a timely manner.  Its eligibility requirements are sufficiently 
tailored to protect from disclosure the contact information for those 
individuals whose personal safety or security would be jeopardized while 
limiting through the proposed non-commercial use requirement and numerical 
ceilings the number of domain names for which RNH contact data would be 
shielded.  Requiring periodic monitoring of the domain name's use will also 
minimize the abuse of the disclosure shield.  Further, the inclusion of a 
challenge mechanism that would be available to the potential applicant, law 
enforcement, and others with a legitimate objection to the designation also 
ensures both that eligible individuals are not rejected and that the Special 
Circumstances designation is not used for illegitimate purposes.
Other Proposals for Access to Data Removed from or Shielded from Whois

We comment below on each of the proposals for access to data no longer 
disclosed in Whois that are contained in pages 24-27 of the Preliminary Task 
Force Report.
1.      Obtain Contact Data From Registrar.  A proposal that parties seek to 
obtain RNH contact data from the registrar and that the registrar disclose the 
RNH contact data to a requesting party is not only unworkable but will 
undoubtedly impose significant business costs on both the requesting party and 
the registrar.  First, it is highly doubtful that any registrar could provide 
the RNH contact data in the short timeframe that we believe is essential.  
Immediate turnaround seems unlikely.  Second, the disclosure of the RNH contact 
data should not be within the discretion of the registrar.  Third, the proposal 
could result in extensive litigation that would unduly tax the resources of the 
registrar, the requesting party, and the courts.  It is in no one's interest to 
adopt a proposal that could potentially result in an incessant stream of court 
actions in which the registrar was either named as a defendant and subject to 
discovery or named as a third party and subject to subpoena.
2.      UDRP Mechanism.  The substance of the proposal is not clear from the 
report.  Accordingly, we reserve comment at this time.
3.      Process for Disclosing Access to Whois Data.  We have concerns about 
the ability to use the proposed process in the short timeframe we believe is 
essential.  Immediate determinations of whether access will be granted and 
disclosure of the withheld data, which are critical in instances of online 
fraud, online counterfeiting and cybersquatting, seems unlikely.  We reserve 
comment on any future elaboration of the requesting process, standards for 
disclosure, and identification and qualification of the third party selected to 
make the determinations.
4.      Contractual Limitations on Use of Data.  Because there is no real 
detail as to the contractual specifications and technical mechanism 
contemplated by such a proposal, we reserve comment.  
5.      Domain Name Lapse In Lieu of Disclosure.  We object to this proposal 
because preventing the domain name from resolving in the future does not "cure" 
the past harm caused by a "phisher", a company selling counterfeit products 
online, a cybersquatter or perpetrator of other online fraud.  Access to the 
RNH contact data remains essential.
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Thank you for your consideration of these comments.
                        Respectfully submitted,

                        American Standard Inc.
                        Bank of America Corporation
                        Belo Corp.
                        Expedia, Inc.
                        First California Mortgage Company
                        International Federation of Film Producers Associations
                        International Video Federation
                        Marina District Development Company, LLC d/b/a Borgata 
Hotel Casino & Spa
                        The MCPS-PRS Alliance Limited
                        M Financial Holdings Incorporated
                        National Geographic Society
                        The Procter & Gamble Company

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