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Username: Garry Anderson
Date/Time: Wed, September 12, 2001 at 2:34 PM GMT
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Subject: Anti-Attack Feds Push Carnivore - Echelon


If they did use anything that could be intercepted by Carnivore - they never will again:

Article: Anti-Attack Feds Push Carnivore,1283,46747,00.html

Article: Spy technology failed to signal attacks


The attack on the U.S. Tuesday took intelligence services by surprise, despite technology that allows monitoring of almost all communications worldwide.

A global electronic surveillance network, known by the code name Echelon, failed to alert the intelligence services of the terrorist attacks. U.S. officials have never officially confirmed the existence of Echelon, but an investigative committee of the European Parliament recently concluded that the spy network is real.

Technology is not a solution, Elly Plooij-van Gorsel, who served as vice-chairman of that committee and is a Member of the European Parliament (MEP) from the Netherlands, concluded Wednesday.

"Intelligence hasn't been able to intercept the communication of these terrorists, intelligence has failed," said Plooij-Van Gorsel.

"Echelon can intercept any communications worldwide. If there have been phone calls or faxes, this system should have intercepted it. If there have been communications, it was done under a cover of encryption or by old-fashioned courier," she said.

"Echelon hasn't worked. In the coming days there will be a lot of discussion about whether the intelligence services have invested in the right technologies. Perhaps they should have opted for spies, for human intelligence," said Maurice Wessling, a Dutch privacy and digital rights activist.


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