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Username: richard_henderson
Date/Time: Thu, December 27, 2001 at 7:23 AM GMT
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Subject: Mr Grabensee DID have fake TM details submitted in his name


In the case cited at the start of this thread ( it is fair to say that Mr Grabensee DID have fake Trademark details submitted in his name.

The Trademark ("") was supposedly granted by the Italian system with the Trademark number 123456

It seems unacceptable that Mr Grabensee would agree to submit this FAKE information, so perhaps someone would like to explain further?

I assume that this has been confirmed as a fake, since WIPO took the name off Mr Grabensee in the Challenge period.

However, my real concern would be if Mr Grabensee is an Afilias director. If he is, then it seems wholly unacceptable that he should be registering FAKE details in his name, which could result in other people being defrauded, and which abuse Afilias's own systems.

A very similar action was committed by Afilias CEO Hal Lubsen's company DomainBank with the support they offered to Lorenz's wholly ineligible names - a clear abuse of Afilias's system - but at least in that case, the names were not registered in an Afilias director's name.

Hal Lubsen has failed to offer any explanation for the abuse of Afilias's system, in this forum.

Perhaps Mr Grabensee would like to do so?      


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