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Username: richard_henderson
Date/Time: Thu, December 27, 2001 at 10:32 AM GMT
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Subject: What is the accreditation status of registrars that made fake applications?


The large number (hundreds) of fake Sunrise registrations listed for Yesnic and (aka Siegfried Langenbach) on the Internet Challenge have started to be confirmed by WIPO.

For example, was submitted in the name of Siegfried Langenbach of This name has been successfully challenged as having fake Trademark data, and WIPO have taken away the name.

For example,,, were all submitted in the name of Yesnic. These names have been successfully challenged as having fake Trademark data, and WIPO have taken away these names.

I have to assume that Afilias will now challenge the hundreds of other names registered by these two registrars and listed on the Internet Challenge.

However, this raises other issues of real concern with regard to consumer protection.

These two companies have now been shown by WIPO to have registered names with fake trademarks. By so doing, they have defrauded other applicants who paid pre-registration fees to enter the round robin for the same names. These two companies also breached Afilias rules. They appear to have lied and deceived.


Afilias is still recommending them to customers as "accredited" registrars on their own Afilias website!

Does this mean that Afilias condones corruption?

Does this mean that Afilias cares for honest customers?

Does this mean that we, the internet public, should trust the Afilias website and trust Afilias?

And has ICANN anything to say about these established acts of deception? Any sanctions? Any statement at all to the Internet public?

Does ICANN just preside over corruption and "let it happen"?

Where does this leave the customer?

As usual, I invite Hal Lubsen of Afilias or Vint Cerf of ICANN to comment and explain why these actions by registrars have been tolerated.

Is it acceptable to cheat the public?

Is it acceptable to continue granting accreditation to registrars that have been shown to submit fake information and, as a result, defraud honest customers?

But then again, Hal Lubsen's own company DomainBank has knowingly submitted ineligible data for many .info registrations and charged customers for doing so, making a profit out of fraudulent applications.

So how can Hal Lubsen, in his capacity as CEO of Afilias, take action against other registrars who may be frauds?

And yet surely the public have a right to be protected? Surely registrars who have committed fraud should lose their accreditation? Surely ICANN has a responsibility to protect the consumer and safeguard the integrity of the system?

Is the domain industry just "bandit country" and devil take the consumer? And what damage does that do to the honest registrars?       


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