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Username:	moler
Date/Time:	Sun, December 30, 2001 at 2:11 PM GMT
Browser:	Microsoft Internet Explorer V6.0 using Windows NT 5.0
Subject:	Paying for toy tm certificates
Message:
Yes. This is a problem. And a very difficult one to administer. I have always maintained that IP claims should only be honoured if the business concern can produce 3 TM certificates - USPTO, UK, and the country of origin. For god sake, gTLDs are meant for international use. Not for selling coconuts to the tourists who come to Fifi Island. Is Sanjeev really had the Indian, US(Federal) and UK certification, for 'business' then cased closed. I'm sure the internet communinity would have nothing to say to that. Right now, the sunrise logic is incredibly flawed and open to all sorts of monkey.biz. As I said, the next time round, I am going to get me a toy TM certificate from Fifi island. Business.info may be too visible to apply this on, but can you imagine the thousands of good names that slip through Afilias's whale hole dotted nets because of this? Don't even start me on the Korean tms...grrrr

Message Thread:

• Business.info> Threats — SanjeevGoyal, December 30 @ 5:12 AM (6/19)
• is a dumbass — 1ntemetAdvocate, December 31 @ 12:23 AM (0/0)
• VALUE — SanjeevGoyal, December 30 @ 4:12 PM (0/0)
• Do you think you have a valid TM for "BUSINESS" or "BUSINESS INFO"? — cello, December 30 @ 1:02 PM (0/0)
• This is to be expected — spot2, December 30 @ 12:23 AM (0/0)
• It Would Be Foolish... — investor, December 30 @ 12:12 AM (1/3)
• Paying for toy tm certificates — moler, December 30 @ 2:11 PM (2/2)
• You miss main point of trademarks — Garry Anderson, December 31 @ 6:23 PM (0/0)
• Good Point! — investor, December 31 @ 7:23 AM (0/0)
• Afilias' Sunrise policies have created this hate monster... — ebiz, December 30 @ 5:49 AM (2/10)
• Cat.info is another example — Gregory W. Krajewski, December 30 @ 4:24 PM (0/0)
• through the Sunrise process, many corporates with lists of — antipathy, December 30 @ 7:51 AM (1/8)
• Sunrise is not only an abomination, it can't be realistically administered at all ---------elom — moler, December 30 @ 2:15 PM (4/7)
• Sunrise is bull* propaganda - it is all based on lies — Garry Anderson, December 31 @ 6:09 AM (1/3)
• Sunrise is a corrupt mockery. — spot2, December 31 @ 6:21 AM (1/2)
• Science.info going to Dupont is corrupt mockery — Garry Anderson, December 31 @ 6:43 AM (1/1)
• It's facially invalid so Afilias 'should' challenge it. — spot2, December 31 @ 6:59 AM (0/0)
• Sunrise does not solve 'consumer confusion', 'trademark conflict' or 'passing off' — Garry Anderson, December 31 @ 5:57 AM (0/0)
• Sunrise abridges peoples right to use words — Garry Anderson, December 31 @ 5:47 AM (0/0)
• Sunrise stops small businesses without TM — Garry Anderson, December 31 @ 5:44 AM (0/0)

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