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Username: psbyowner
Date/Time: Thu, June 21, 2001 at 5:52 PM GMT
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Subject: Changing the .org and .net formats now is unconstitutional

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      The NATURE of U.S. government agencies has not changed in 200 years. Look at the how our beloved U.S government has historically "dealt with" Native Americans, African Americans, Chinese, and other, politically weaker entities. Judging by many of the posts here, ICANN seems to feel it can steamroller over anybody because it is an 'elitist' government agency (the .biz fiasco).

This very evil nature is not only evident with ICANNS attitude towards previously existing .biz roots, but with ICANNs'attitude towards the fuctionality of .org and .net. What right do they have to dictate to us and have authority over the current, common law functionality of the internet(especially when changing this common law functionality does significant harm to others?!)

We must challege this authority, and raise community awareness, and get our politicians involved, so we can let THE PEOPLE regain control of the direction of the internet; not the opinions of a selected minority WHO WERE IN NO WAY CHOSEN BY THE PUBLIC.

This email is a direct response to the ICANN proposal of changing the format of .org to strictly "Non-Profit" organizations and .net exclusively to internet webhosts and networks. My intention is to give several reasons why this proposal is unrealistic, to show how this proposal does more harm than good, and to demonstrate how      widespread the opposition to this proposal is.

         1. How can a singular definition of "Non-Profit" be applied to .org websites? The formal definition of "Non Profit" is too narrow to justify the huge disruption this will cause with .org owners and webmasters.

         2. How will ICANN police the web content to insure it is indeed non profit? If there is no way to enforce a law, then it is not logical to initiate it. It seems like ICANN is getting carried away with its "authority". We do not live under a communist government, which can suppress free speech laws to fit its own "agendas".

         3. After years of common law acceptance as a general use domain, what right does ICANN have to disrupt the hundreds of thousands of .org and .net owners and initiate these new formats when it was negligent in regulating the registrar companies who sold the domain names without this "Non-Profit" condition? Once the domain name
         was sold, the circumstances surrounding that sale did not specify that the corporation be a Non profit. Of course, the registrars should be included in the long list below because they definitely lose money by this proposal (less sales and renewals of .org and .net domain names).

         4. Will the current .org and .net owners be compensated, or will the US government and ICANN sieze these names from the owners?
  The ends do not justify the means, because so many people will be
  negatively affected for the benefit of, well, nobody. This seems like unreasonable and unlawful search and seizure to me. Not to mention violation of free speech laws and communist style government
regulated censorship. I and many others feel a deep seeded anger and
resentment at ICANN for even considering these proposals.

         5. Website content cannot be controlled by any government body, because of free speech rights. It is eventually up to the webmaster what content is published onto a website. A domian name extension will not change this fact. For example, What will stop a webmaster from publlishing content other than "Non Profit" content? If ICANN does not plan to police the web to insure web content is in
compliance with its proposals, then ICANN should not consider       changing the formats for .net and .org.

         Listed below is an extensive list of companies, organizations, and websites that have voiced their opposition to ANY change in the current web format for .org and .net. If you would like to add your name or company to this list, please visit handsoffmy.org and join us.

If this message gets deleted, we know who deleted it and why, because I will be leaving it up.

"Non Profit" and Networks only (.net) proposals will do nothing but
         harm to webmasters, web hosts, registars, and domain name
         investors, and will benefit nobody. 

         Supporters

         loony.org
         followingeden
         Internet Brothers
         ctrl-alt-ego
         SweetAspirations.com
         TaffyDoodleDesigns
         tijs.org
         badjuju.org
         Succulence
         Eric Brooks.ComŽ
         slackerbaby
         starlet
         gardengrove.org
         BirchLane
         The Time Sink
         bluezfire.org
         Elitists.org
         kabbit's slash fiction
         Shreveport.org
         ColdMarble
         The Tangerine Lounge
         Living Colours
         book of days
         SuburbanJoe.org
         project37.org
         sexnazi.org
         Elfgirl
         Bummin' Around
         [ vanderven . org ]
         ToBeMe.org
         laquinta.org
         RearViewMirror
         kellybrown.org
         Kellea Design
         Sometimes I....
         Vitalogy.org
         Bar Food
         Up Above It
         Bar None Drink Recipes
         dirtywhiteboy[dot]org
         Cu Mor Glas
         i blog u
         Duncan's Jotter
         BlueSilver[Dot]Org
         Kishore Balakrishnan's Psychic RAM
         Lemur Zone News
         The Fix
         ianblog
         Here's Bloggin' At You Kid!
         GrillBurn
         Me, Myself & My Thoughts
         Evaporated
         MidnightBlue.Org
         geeKsuperstar.org
         Zippylog
         the Iphigeneia project
         tesserae
         the-anathema.org
         holygranola.com
         bargle
         Orangetang.org
         no surrender
         Wonderful Miracles
         Net Sisters Org.
         The JohnDoe Journal Neighborhood
         Lost Dreams
         justme.org
         Blah Blah Blog
         flowerhead
         imbri.org
         woops.org
         Land & Space Twin Cities
         BunnyBrains
         JessaJune
         The Wondering Jew
         Pacaria.org
         wicked persephone
         krush.org
         uberkat.org
         Dan's Domain Site
         hywelldotorg
         plurfles.org
         worldwidejeb.org
         tout est blue - blueigloo.org
         echoic; ping
         ECHOING.ORG
         Especially Vivisection
         coolstop/2001
         datajack.org
         junkology.org
         CoffeeHouseblues
         allan.org
         Cheeky
         [the bwg update]
         RSNW.ORG
         AB Designs
         lifeofbrian.org
         theatregeek.org
         Scorchio
         against.org
         Online Journal Turtle Neighbourhood
         The Hermitage
         Sole Parents Union - NSW, Australia
         Artistamps
         The Gender Centre Inc.
         LightHeaded
         DotOrgNames.org
         collide
         The Girl Scientist
         Agricultura.org
         Blackmage
         Computer Hope
         whisperings.org
         frustrated.org
         Computer Chair Traveler
         webdemon.org
         Nv2g.org
         Not a pretty girl
         datura.org
         Department of Veteran's Affairs
         libbey.org
         Baba Nand Singh Sahib
         moonstruck
         CGHMN.org
         outofhabit.org
         JH3
         Genealogy Research Site
         Usability.org
         JustLisa
         SportLiterate.org
         Pacific SpecWare Internet Solutions
         lbbl.org
         The Hermans' Home Page
         AyerViernes S.A.
         Aslan
         BAMENDA.ORG
         surreallogic communications
         NickBouton.com
         bouton.org
         robotix.org
         BelgoGender
         Indierecords.com
         chilli.org
         Greasy Skillet
         Global Effort to Eradicate Know-nothings (GEEK Force)
         finnell.org
         David Brand
         Plein Family Domain
         KAPSELI
         Zantinge.org
         Marcus Reif Online
         The Little Czech Primer
         Shuvits Asylum
         Flyhunter Art Tribe
         girltype.org
         apathy.nu
         eproduct.org
         chromewaves
         labelzero[]org
         restraint
         unsupported.org
         hootch.org
         willpate.org
         Dave's Gay Military Site
         DomainMall.Ca
         vantan.org
         dutchbint.org
         Suspension of Disbelief
         10backwards.org
         Bermi Village
         Sustainable Trails.org
         torrez.org
         inconsistent dot org
         Trainorphans.org
         Process.org
         ohGr.org
         weltschmerz.org
         Madweb
         LinuxBookmarks.org
         Locombia.org
         datapimp
         sweet -:- illusions
         hit-or-miss.org
         Xaluvier's 3D
         P2P Smoke
         Perrylane.org
         Hypocrisy Entertainment Network
         Gothicweb.org
         oneinq.com
         TBonz Virtual Tavern
         wscogop.org
         babybot.org
         Flaherty
         Jim & Steph Rothgeb's Homepage
         MetaSystema!
         OpenSourceJobs.org
         Verizon Really Sucks
         Norderbrarup
         biscuitware.co.uk
         The Other Side of Glen Road
         randompsycho.org
         lardmonster
         Norderbrarup
         canny.org
         thesynapse.org
         [AMERICANTV]
         Buran's Home Planet
         Found
         hentai.org
         kyllikki.org
         Family Hoering
         taggar.org
         First Internet Church
         Paul
         Circle of Style
         Brighton Rock
         FilePile.org
         Gurston Down Hillclimb, Salisbury England
         pussy galore
         WhiteSpruce Druid Association
         d i s s o l v e r . o r g
         Duraes.org
         BMEdia
         wyvern.org
         Jeremy Sedgley
         cain's corner of cyberspace
         Miz Dos.com
         preseed.org
         Flat 27 MiniSite
         ankh.org
         crinux
         brilliant corners
         subsist.org
         ickle.org
         oakden.org
         ringworld.org
         Brighton Rock
         pichus revenge
         dunderbug
         Yardsale's Blog
         Green Fairy
         Evilfreak
         whoo dot org
         blackfrost.org
         shiver.org
         maudlin.org
         RCTLand.co.uk
         gothicgranola
         shortstuff.org the home of short people
         vicious.nu
         Rydia.org
         Sibling Abuse Survivors'
         randompsycho.org
         Spittank.net
         LATZ
         Twilight Illusions
         poohead.org
         hostmaster.org
         CS-Freaks
         BC Group
         Mariazell Online
         Starcraft.org
         Warcraft.org
         BRUISED.NET
         mangled . org
         hibernation.org
         GOOD_VS_ICANN
         California Real Estate
         Alternative Reality Network
         Apps4Linux
         Railways in the Net
         latzikatz.ORG
         opacity.org
         Evilfreak
         Not quite
         org-domain-name-owners-lobby-against-ICANNs-sellout-to-VeriSign.ORG
         FREDOsite.com
         rockout.org
         a.l.a.a.c
         Stop, Thief!
         piiska.org
         End Culture
         RCTLand.co.uk
         circlesix.org
         tribal studios
         Cabbage.org
         o12.org
         rivervision

          AND MANY, MANY MORE NOT MENTIONED HERE!
 


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