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  • To: Zahid Jamil <zahid@xxxxxxxxx>, bc - GNSO list <bc-gnso@xxxxxxxxx>
  • Subject: RE: [bc-gnso]
  • From: Marilyn Cade <marilynscade@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sat, 13 Nov 2010 18:38:04 -0500

Dear Zahid, and BC Members,
Zahid, this is deeply regrettable, but I respect your decision, while I deeply 
regret the situation which has led to this. It was indeed our expectation that 
ICANN had addressed needed arrangements at the time of approving the hosting, 
as those of active in the IGF know that the IGF secretariat takes great care 
over.\
As Chair, I will begin consultations with ExComm  through Monday and Tuesday of 
next week, electronically. There is an ExComm meeting later in the week.I 
expect to split the travel across more than one attendee. 
This email, or other exchanges in dealing with this situaiton, are  not 
intended as a formal comment from the BC leadership on meeting location 
selection to ICANN. 
We appreciate the efforts staff have made, and will make in the future, on 
behalf of members from around the world. However, this is extremely 
disappointing, and we really counted on having both Mike and Zahid in 
attendance, and fully actively participating in all working sessions. 
The ExComm will also consult with Zahid regarding how to best facilitate his 
remote participation throughout the various ICANN meetings. 
Marilyn CadeBC Chair




From: zahid@xxxxxxxxx
To: bc-GNSO@xxxxxxxxx
CC: Glen@xxxxxxxxx; matt.ashtiani@xxxxxxxxx
Subject: [bc-gnso] 
Date: Sun, 14 Nov 2010 01:45:27 +0500
















Dear Members,

 

I have been informed by the ICANN Travel Staff that there
are considerable challenges being faced facilitating visas for several
nationalities.

 

This stems from:

The fact that Colombia does not have missions (especially
those that process visa applications) in several developing countries

The fact that the Colombian Foreign Office has not been forthcoming
in streamlining visa applications in coordination with ICANN.

 

This means the following for me:

 

1.      
In all its wisdom the Colombian Govt. has designated its
INDIAN embassy for receiving Pakistani applications.  Hence I first have to 
apply
for an INDIAN visa (as a Pakistani).    As a Pakistani it is extremely difficult
to apply for Indian visa.  The Indian Govt. may not be too convinced by my
purpose for travelling to India and it is possible that visa is refused.  In
any case it can take up to 2 months to apply for an Indian visa.  Then if I get
an Indian visa I will need to physically fly to India and apply at the Colombian
Embassy there and wait around until my visa is issued.  Then return to
Pakistan.  Then fly to Colombia.

 

2.      
To attempt to apply in the UK, for instance, there is every
possibility that even if they write to me that they are willing to accept my 
application,
when I arrive and apply, they not reject my application asking me to fly to
India instead.  (ICANN had asked the SFO Colombian Embassy 3 times if they are
willing to process visas in a group, to which they agreed but when ICANN staff
flew to SFO, they were told that the Colombian Embassy staff was incorrect and 
so
ICANN Staff had to fly back empty handed).  Even if by some luck another
Embassy such as the UK Embassy issues me a Colombian visa it is possible that
when I arrive in Cartagena the immigration may take the view that the visa has
been issued from the wrong office and refuse entry. (credit to ICANN they had
even offered to fund a trip by participants to such third countries to apply
for visas)

 

3.      
The Colombian Foreign Office has informed a frustrated ICANN
staff that ICANN participants may be issued visas on arrival.  However ICANN
staff has correctly cautioned that it may be possible that since this irregular
I could come across an immigration officer who may be unaware and so may refuse
entry.  In any case airlines would not let passengers board their flights
unless they have visas and so I may find myself unable to board flights to
Cartagena and find myself stranded in Miami, for instance (not a bad outcome 
either
but doesn’t get me to the meeting).

 

And if you thought this was it – there are other convoluted
permutations to the problem faced by me and participants from other countries.

 

Hence, I have taken the following decisions:

 

·        
It is best that the travel support allocated to me
as a BC Councillor instead be made available and be used for other BC 
participants.

 

·        
It is best that I not travel for this meeting
considering the confusion and uncertainty around visas and have chosen to make
alternate commitments during that time.

 

I hope that this experience demonstrates that by simply
rotating meetings and having them at exotic locations does not necessarily
assist in participation by developing countries.

 

Since many developing countries do not have the capacity to
maintain diplomatic missions all over the world and they need to prioritise,
they tend to have more missions in developed countries than in developing
countries.  This by itself is a challenge for participation and ought to be 
considered
 before choosing ICANN meeting venues.

 

 

 

 

Sincerely,

 

 

Zahid
Jamil

Barrister-at-law

Jamil
& Jamil

Barristers-at-law

219-221
Central Hotel Annexe

Merewether
Road, Karachi. Pakistan

Cell:
+923008238230

Tel:
+92 21 35680760 / 35685276 / 35655025

Fax:
+92 21 35655026

www.jamilandjamil.com

 

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