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RE: [gnso-iocrc-dt] RE: Language Issue Solution

  • To: "Neuman, Jeff" <Jeff.Neuman@xxxxxxxxxx>, "Gomes, Chuck" <cgomes@xxxxxxxxxxxx>, "Konstantinos Komaitis" <k.komaitis@xxxxxxxxxxxx>, "Jim Bikoff" <jbikoff@xxxxxxxxx>, <gnso-iocrc-dt@xxxxxxxxx>
  • Subject: RE: [gnso-iocrc-dt] RE: Language Issue Solution
  • From: "Shatan, Gregory S." <GShatan@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 17:10:41 -0400

I agree with Jeff.  

Any proposal now about the criteria or mechanisms that some future group
might use (prior to the second round) to decide whether and how to add
languages at the top level for that round is highly premature.  

It is equally premature to discuss now how we will deal with the
language issue at the second level.

Greg

-----Original Message-----
From: Neuman, Jeff [mailto:Jeff.Neuman@xxxxxxxxxx] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2012 4:58 PM
To: Gomes, Chuck; Konstantinos Komaitis; Jim Bikoff; Shatan, Gregory S.;
gnso-iocrc-dt@xxxxxxxxx
Cc: David Heasley; Kiran Malancharuvil
Subject: RE: [gnso-iocrc-dt] RE: Language Issue Solution

My gut is that we should take all subjectivity out of it and basically
just state:

The GAC has proposed that the IOC and RCRC "names should be protected
in multiple languages-all translations of the listed names in languages
used on the Internet...The lists of protected names that the IOC and
RC/RC have provided are illustrative and representative, not exhaustive.
The Drafting Team recommends that for this initial round, the list of
languages currently provided in Section 2.2.1.2.3 of the Applicant
Guidebook are sufficient. 

This is more objective and should not lead to any debate

Jeffrey J. Neuman
Neustar, Inc. / Vice President, Business Affairs


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-----Original Message-----
From: Gomes, Chuck [mailto:cgomes@xxxxxxxxxxxx] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2012 2:47 PM
To: Konstantinos Komaitis; Jim Bikoff; Neuman, Jeff; Gregory Shatan;
gnso-iocrc-dt@xxxxxxxxx
Cc: David Heasley; Kiran Malancharuvil
Subject: RE: [gnso-iocrc-dt] RE: Language Issue Solution

My first reaction is that Konstantinos suggestion is reasonable.  Do any
of you disagree?

Chuck

> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-gnso-iocrc-dt@xxxxxxxxx [mailto:owner-gnso-iocrc- 
> dt@xxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Konstantinos Komaitis
> Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2012 3:40 PM
> To: Jim Bikoff; Jeff Neuman; Gregory Shatan; gnso-iocrc-dt@xxxxxxxxx
> Cc: David Heasley; Kiran Malancharuvil
> Subject: Re: [gnso-iocrc-dt] RE: Language Issue Solution
> 
> 
> Thank you very much for the clarification Jim. We should, however, 
> identify a way where any addition of new languages beyond this 
> illustrative list should be done in a way that is not arbitrary. I am 
> not certain how this can be achieved, but my point is to prevent the 
> addition of languages without having a mechanism where a)the need to 
> add the additional language is verified and, b) the addition is part 
> of a clear and unambiguous  justification of why the terms should be 
> protected because, especially under national laws.
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Konstantinos
> 
> From: Jim Bikoff <jbikoff@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:jbikoff@xxxxxxxxx>>
> Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2012 19:22:20 +0000
> To: Jeff Neuman
> <Jeff.Neuman@xxxxxxxxxx<mailto:Jeff.Neuman@xxxxxxxxxx>>, Gregory 
> Shatan <GShatan@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:GShatan@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>, 
> "gnso-iocrc- dt@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:gnso-iocrc-dt@xxxxxxxxx>" 
> <gnso-iocrc- dt@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:gnso-iocrc-dt@xxxxxxxxx>>
> Cc: David Heasley <dheasley@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:dheasley@xxxxxxxxx>>,
> Kiran Malancharuvil
> <kmalancharuvil@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:kmalancharuvil@xxxxxxxxx>>
> Subject: [gnso-iocrc-dt] RE: Language Issue Solution
> 
> All,
> 
> Proposal 2 would now read as follows:
> 
> The GAC has proposed that the IOC and RCRC "names should be protected 
> in multiple languages-all translations of the listed names in 
> languages used on the Internet...The lists of protected names that the

> IOC and RC/RC have provided are illustrative and representative, not 
> exhaustive."
> 
> The Drafting Team agrees that the list of languages currently provided

> in Section 2.2.1.2.3 of the Applicant Guidebook are illustrative and 
> representative.
> Other illustrative and representative languages can be added to the 
> list later, to cover the second level and later application rounds.
> 
> Jim Bikoff
> 
> 
> James L. Bikoff
> Silverberg, Goldman & Bikoff, LLP
> 1101 30th Street, NW
> Suite 120
> Washington, DC 20007
> Tel: 202-944-3303
> Fax: 202-944-3306
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> 
> 
> 
> ________________________________
> From:owner-gnso-iocrc-dt@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:owner-gnso-iocrc-
> dt@xxxxxxxxx> [mailto:owner-gnso-iocrc- 
> dt@xxxxxxxxx]<mailto:[mailto:owner-gnso-iocrc-dt@xxxxxxxxx]> On Behalf

> Of Shatan, Gregory S.
> Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2012 2:10 PM
> To: Hughes, Debra Y.; Neuman, Jeff; Kiran Malancharuvil; gnso-iocrc- 
> dt@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:gnso-iocrc-dt@xxxxxxxxx>
> Cc: Jim Bikoff; shankins@xxxxxxxx<mailto:shankins@xxxxxxxx>;
> christophe.lanord@xxxxxxxx<mailto:christophe.lanord@xxxxxxxx>
> Subject: RE: [gnso-iocrc-dt] RE: Languge Issue Solution Is the 
> appropriate change:
> 
> 1.  To remove the last sentence of Proposal 2 2.  To remove all of 
> Proposal 2 (referring to as many languages as feasible), or 3.  To 
> edit Proposal 2 to support the utilization only of the languages set 
> forth in the AGB?
> 
> Leaving the rest of Proposal 2 doesn't seem to make sense to me, since

> it is at odds with the proposed change below.  Thus, I would suggest 
> the amendment should be either 2 or 3 above.
> 
> Greg
> 
> 
> Gregory S. Shatan
> Deputy Chair| Tech Transactions Group
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> ReedSmithLLP
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> 
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