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RE: AW: [gnso-trans-wg] Revised Document
- To: Thomas Keller <tom@xxxxxxxx>
- Subject: RE: AW: [gnso-trans-wg] Revised Document
- From: Tim Ruiz <tim@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 06 Mar 2008 05:45:49 -0700
<html><body><div>I totally disagree Tom. And you have it backwards. The concern
is about a registrar transfer occuring immediately following a change in the
Registered Name Holder (RNH) of record for the name. Also, 3.2.2 has
nothing to do with a change in the RNH of record. It has to do with the RNH
changing its own contact data. There is nothing in the RAA that deals with, or
that requires, registrars to facilitate a change of RNH or allow assignment of
its Registration Agreement from one RNH to another.</div>
<div> </div>
<div>I strongly disagree with any attempt to delete this one. It has been a
constant point of contention and needs to get resolved.<BR><BR>Tim
<BR><BR></div>
<BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 8px; MARGIN-LEFT: 8px; BORDER-LEFT: blue 2px
solid" webmail="1">-------- Original Message --------<BR>Subject: AW:
[gnso-trans-wg] Revised Document<BR>From: "Thomas Keller"
<tom@xxxxxxxx><BR>Date: Thu, March 06, 2008 4:15 am<BR>To: "'Gomes,
Chuck'" <cgomes@xxxxxxxxxxxx>, <gnso-trans-wg@xxxxxxxxx><BR><BR>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=881424209-06032008><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>Hello,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=881424209-06032008><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=881424209-06032008><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>please excuse my tardiness but reading the latest document
I have to bring up one more recommendation we should discuss.
</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=881424209-06032008><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=881424209-06032008>
<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; mso-layout-grid-align:
none"><SPAN lang=EN-GB style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Courier New';
mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">9. m. Whether special provisions are needed for
change of registrant simultaneous to transfer or within a period after
transfer. The policy does not currently deal with change of registrant, which
often figures in hijacking cases. (CT10.0)<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN class=881424209-06032008>It should
have come to my mind before but technically there is no such thing as a
simultaneous change of registrant and registrar. The way the protocol works is
that the transfer has always to be executed first before a change of registrant
can be made. In fact the transfer itself has nothing to do with any
registrant data it is purely a change in sponsorship from one
registrar to another. A change of registrant after the completion of a transfer
is in no way related to the transfer policy but subject to the RRA
requirement 3.22:</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Courier New" size=2><SPAN
class=881424209-06032008></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=+0><SPAN class=881424209-06032008>3.2.2 Within five (5)
business days after receiving any updates from the Registered Name Holder to
the data elements listed in Subsections 3.2.1.2, 3.1.2.3, and 3.2.1.6 for any
Registered Name Registrar sponsors, Registrar shall submit the updated data
elements to, or shall place those elements in the Registry Database operated by
the Registry Operator.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face="Courier New" size=2></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=881424209-06032008><FONT face="Courier New" size=2>As I agree
that both issues can be related especially in the case of hijacking changes I
do not view this as a transfer issue and would therefore suggest to swop it
into the pool of deleted recommendations.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=881424209-06032008><FONT face="Courier New"
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=881424209-06032008><FONT face="Courier New"
size=2>Best,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=881424209-06032008><FONT face="Courier New"
size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=881424209-06032008><FONT face="Courier New"
size=2>tom</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader lang=de dir=ltr align=left>
<HR tabIndex=-1>
<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>Von:</B> owner-gnso-trans-wg@xxxxxxxxx [<a
href="mailto:owner-gnso-trans-wg@xxxxxxxxx]";>mailto:owner-gnso-trans-wg@xxxxxxxxx]</a>
<B>Im Auftrag von </B>Gomes, Chuck<BR><B>Gesendet:</B> Donnerstag, 6.
März 2008 00:31<BR><B>An:</B> gnso-trans-wg@xxxxxxxxx<BR><B>Betreff:</B>
[gnso-trans-wg] Revised Document<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=625451523-05032008>Here is the latest
version of our PDP recommendations as promised. Note that the changes we
agreed to in today's call are highlighted; please verify that I have captured
them correctly and communicate any errors on this list ASAP so that I can
prepare a clean document by Monday of next week. Also note that there are
two sections as follows that I added at the end of the document: 1) my summary
of the discussion we had regarding ordering of the PDPs; 2) meeting details for
next week that I repeat here: <SPAN style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times
New Roman'; mso-ansi-language: EN-US; mso-fareast-font-family: Batang;
mso-fareast-language: KO; mso-bidi-language: AR-SA">Wednesday, 12 March, 16:00
UTC (09:00 PDT <st1:City w:st="on">Los Angeles</st1:City>, 11:00 CDT <st1:City
w:st="on">Cedar Rapids</st1:City>, 17:00 CET <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:City
w:st="on">Brussels</st1:City></st1:place>). This !
is one hour later than today's meeting - note that those of us in the U.S.
will be on daylight savings time and I think I properly reflected that in the
times shown.</SPAN></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=625451523-05032008><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language:
EN-US; mso-fareast-font-family: Batang; mso-fareast-language: KO;
mso-bidi-language: AR-SA"></SPAN></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=625451523-05032008><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language:
EN-US; mso-fareast-font-family: Batang; mso-fareast-language: KO;
mso-bidi-language: AR-SA"><U>Action Items for Next
Week</U></SPAN></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=625451523-05032008><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language:
EN-US; mso-fareast-font-family: Batang; mso-fareast-language: KO;
mso-bidi-language: AR-SA"></SPAN></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=625451523-05032008><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language:
EN-US; mso-fareast-font-family: Batang; mso-fareast-language: KO;
mso-bidi-language: AR-SA"><STRONG>All:</STRONG> review the attached
document and communicate any corrections or suggested changes to this
list NLT Sunday, 9 March</SPAN></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=625451523-05032008><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language:
EN-US; mso-fareast-font-family: Batang; mso-fareast-language: KO;
mso-bidi-language: AR-SA"></SPAN></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=625451523-05032008><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language:
EN-US; mso-fareast-font-family: Batang; mso-fareast-language: KO;
mso-bidi-language: AR-SA"><STRONG>Chuck</STRONG>: prepare a clean version
of the attached document with added text to create a draft version of our
recommendations for the Council and distribute it ASAP before next week's
call</SPAN></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=625451523-05032008><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language:
EN-US; mso-fareast-font-family: Batang; mso-fareast-language: KO;
mso-bidi-language: AR-SA"></SPAN></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=625451523-05032008><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language:
EN-US; mso-fareast-font-family: Batang; mso-fareast-language: KO;
mso-bidi-language: AR-SA"><STRONG>Olof</STRONG>: prepare a draft version
of text that will be integrated with Chuck's draft as part of the
recommendations document to the Council (e.g., references to related documents,
members of the WG, numbering scheme for recommendations and priorities,
etc.)</SPAN></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=625451523-05032008><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language:
EN-US; mso-fareast-font-family: Batang; mso-fareast-language: KO;
mso-bidi-language: AR-SA"></SPAN></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=625451523-05032008><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language:
EN-US; mso-fareast-font-family: Batang; mso-fareast-language: KO;
mso-bidi-language: AR-SA"><U>Agenda for Next Week</U></SPAN></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<OL>
<LI><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=625451523-05032008><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language:
EN-US; mso-fareast-font-family: Batang; mso-fareast-language: KO;
mso-bidi-language: AR-SA">Finalize recommendations with regard to PDP order,
priorities, etc.</SPAN></SPAN></FONT>
<LI><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=625451523-05032008><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language:
EN-US; mso-fareast-font-family: Batang; mso-fareast-language: KO;
mso-bidi-language: AR-SA">Review and edit draft documents distributed by Chuck
& Olof</SPAN></SPAN></FONT>
<LI><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=625451523-05032008><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Times New Roman'; mso-ansi-language:
EN-US; mso-fareast-font-family: Batang; mso-fareast-language: KO;
mso-bidi-language: AR-SA">Make plans for finalizing and sending our
recommendations to the Council.</SPAN></SPAN></FONT></LI></OL>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=625451523-05032008>Thanks for your
cooperation,</SPAN></FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
class=625451523-05032008></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV align=left><FONT face=Tahoma size=2>Chuck Gomes</FONT></DIV>
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