[npoc] Re: Info Request and Update --GNSO NCPH January 2013 Inter-Sessional Planning - Traveler Info Requested

[Alain Berranger <alain.berranger@xxxxxxxxx>]

Dear Robin,

Thanks. I understood the situation.

 In practice, how many seats for NCSG's needs will end up going to NCUC
members and how many to NPOC members? It seems that the Cy parity is less
important to you than to me. In a way, that is not surprising so let's A2D
again on that one and move on.

NPOC will soon designate a replacement on the NCSG-EC for Lori Schulman,
until our 2013 elections anyway - I will let the NCSG-EC know as soon as
possible - we have called for nominations and will communicate our decision
mid-december.

As a NCSG-EC member, I suggest that 5 of the 8 SG wide seats go to the
NCSG-EC, ie. you, Milton, Rafik, myself and the new appointee. That would
still end up 8 NPOC participants and 12+1 NCUC participants with 5 of these
representing the NCSG-EC.

I'm less concerned about the NCSG numbers as there will be no shortage in
LA, but am concerned about having enough new NPOC members to be able to
start a little Cy capacity building.

Does that spirit and letter work for you and other NCSG-EC members?

Best, Alain

On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 1:37 AM, Robin Gross <robin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Dear Alain,
>
> NCSG on the one hand as the SG, and NPOC and NCUC on the other hand as
> constituencies play different roles, perform different functions and have
> different responsibilities according the NCSG Charter.
>
> Neither NCUC nor NPOC may over-take the positions at this mtg reserved for
> the NCSG representatives, who were elected by the entire NCSG membership
> (including NPOC members) to perform NCSG functions and responsibilities.
>
> The constituencies each are allocated 6 seats to ensure their needs are
> met, and the NCSG is allocated 8 seats to ensure that NCSG's needs are met.
>  Each constituency will have to make due with what has been allocated to
> it, as will NCSG.  I hope that clears it up.
>
> Thanks,
> Robin
>
>
>
> On Dec 4, 2012, at 11:46 AM, Alain Berranger wrote:
>
> Dear Robin, Bill:
>
> IMHO, we do not need the GNSO councillors per se; they can simply show up
> as NCUC members... given the parity in numbers between Cys stated by Rob, I
> find it more equitable if NPOC gets 10 seats like NCUC... if not, it will
> be NCUC with 14 members and only 6 for NPOC. We need parity between the 2
> Cys. Also, if I can mobilize 10 NPOC members, we can have our EC members
> (the Toronto NPOC  delegation + Cintra)  plus representatives from Africa,
> LAC and Asia.  Indeed, we would like to use the meeting for capacity
> building of our Constituency... that's better for ICANN, as NCUC  is well
> established and has had 12 years to build capacity and leadership... NPOC
> has had a little more than one year...
>
> What do you say?
>
> Alain
>
> On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 5:24 PM, Robin Gross <robin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>> Dear Alain,
>>
>> NCSG-wide seats will go to NCSG-wide representatives (i.e. the NCSG GNSO
>> Councilors) not to individual constituency members.  NPOC will have 6 to
>> allocate and should use those for NPOC representatives.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Robin
>>
>>
>> On Nov 26, 2012, at 2:19 PM, Alain Berranger wrote:
>>
>> Dear Robin,
>>
>>  For now, on a preliminary basis to be confirmed, here are NPOC's 4
>> intended attendees under NCSG-wide allocation:
>>
>> 1. Klaus Stoll
>> 2. Cintra Sooknanan
>> 3. Marie-laure Lemineur
>> 4. the undersigned
>>
>> I will confirm soonest possible.
>>
>> Best, Alain
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: Robert Hoggarth <robert.hoggarth@xxxxxxxxx>
>> Date: Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 2:47 AM
>> Subject: Info Request and Update --GNSO NCPH January 2013 Inter-Sessional
>> Planning - Traveler Info Requested
>> To: Robert Hoggarth <robert.hoggarth@xxxxxxxxx>, Marilyn Cade <
>> marilynscade@xxxxxxxxxxx>, Robin Gross <robin@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>, Rafik
>> Dammak <rafik.dammak@xxxxxxxxx>, "michaeladams@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx" <
>> michaeladams@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, "mtrachtenberg@xxxxxxxxxxx" <
>> mtrachtenberg@xxxxxxxxxxx>, Alain Berranger <alain.berranger@xxxxxxxxx>,
>> Klaus Stoll <klaus.stoll@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, Tony Holmes <
>> tonyarholmes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, William Drake <william.drake@xxxxxx>,
>> David Cake <dave@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Cc: David Olive <david.olive@xxxxxxxxx>, Joseph de Jesus <
>> joseph.dejesus@xxxxxxxxx>, Karen Lettner <karen.lettner@xxxxxxxxx>, Glen
>> de Saint Géry <Glen@xxxxxxxxx>, Margie Milam <Margie.Milam@xxxxxxxxx>,
>> "Metalitz, Steven" <met@xxxxxxx>
>>
>>
>> Dear Marilyn, Robin, Bill, Tony, Alain, Marc, David, Klaus, Michael and
>> Rafik;
>>
>> Thanks to you all for the latest round of contributions to planning for
>> the January meeting.  This message contains confirming information and
>> to-do’s regarding the meeting logistics and a modified draft program for
>> the meeting.  You have all provided very helpful and reasonable input
>> allowing us to fashion logistics that should generally meet all your
>> expectations for the meeting.  There are still areas of the program that
>> need additional input and that can be adjusted further, but we are now at
>> the point where you can begin providing the names of your participants so
>> that we can begin making travel arrangements for everyone. ****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> As you review the material below and in the attached document, please
>> alert me as soon as possible if you think I have misinterpreted any input
>> and if the results are not to your satisfaction.  While we have had to
>> make some compromises, I think we are “in the ballpark” in addressing most
>> of the various views and requests. ****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> *Please try to get all or most of your planned meeting participant names
>> and email addresses in to me by the end of this week – 1 December.*  We
>> can continue the dialogue regarding the draft agenda for another couple of
>> weeks, but the attendee travel arrangements need to start being made as
>> soon as possible to ensure that everyone has a flight and a hotel room
>> close by the ICANN office.****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> *Confirmed Logistics:*
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> *Dates and Location:* January 29 and 30, 2013 at ICANN HQ in Los
>> Angeles, California****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> *Meeting Hotel:*
>>
>> Doubletree by Hilton Hotel Los Angeles - Westside
>>
>> 6161 West Centinela Avenue****
>>
>> Culver City, CA, 90230-6306****
>>
>> Phone: 1-310-649-1776  ****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> *Attendance:* Based on the concept of a strategic meeting of community
>> leaders, the allocated meeting budget and available space in the ICANN Los
>> Angeles office,****
>>
>> 41 community participants – 20 from each Stakeholder Group plus the
>> Nominating Committee Appointee assigned to the GNSO’s Non Contract Party
>> House – will be able to attend the meeting in-person.  Remote
>> participation capabilities will beprovided to allow other interested
>> community members designated by their SG or Constituency to attend.  The
>> meeting events will be recorded and transcribed by ICANN.****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Based on input received, the fairest allocation of slots seemed to be the
>> following:****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> For the CSG, 6 attendees each for the BC, IPC and ISPCPC, plus two
>> CSG-wide seats.****
>>
>> For the NCSG, 6 attendees each for the NCUC and the NPOC, plus 8
>> NCSG-wide seats.****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> These allocations are based on the input that there should be numerical
>> parity between SGs and Constituencies and to give flexibility within the
>> SG’s as well to the maximum extent possible. As you will see from the draft
>> agenda, there is time in the program for each SG to arrange for specific
>> community discussions on matters that are of particular interest to them.
>> ****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Each Constituency and Stakeholder Group has flexibility in indicating who
>> will attend on their behalf.****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> There did not seem to be a consensus on attendance by the GNSO Council
>> leadership or representatives from the Registry or Registrar Stakeholder
>> Groups.  Therefore, no attendance from those parties is anticipated in
>> the participant count or in the agenda topics now being proposed.****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Travel will be arranged through the ICANN Travel Team. The Travel Team
>> will reach out directly to all designated attendees with travelspecifics
>> and instructions on how to make reservations and arrangements.  ****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> *Please try to get all or most of your attendee names and their email
>> addresses in to me by the end of this week – 1 December 2013.* *A simple
>> email from you to me with the list of names, community title/position (if
>> any) and contact email address will suffice.*****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> *Program:*
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Since there seems to be an understandable and reasonable difference of
>> views regarding the scope of topics to be discussed at the meeting, I have
>> modified the proposed program/agenda structure to provide for more balance
>> between joint (general session) meeting time and individual community
>> meeting times. The goal is to let you take advantage of the two days to
>> both conduct individual community discussions, and to also engage in
>> broader discussions about critical engagement and outreach topics common to
>> all.
>>
>> *
>> *
>>
>> *Please review the modified agenda at your earliest convenience.*  I
>> would welcome reactions to this modified approach and I am sure further
>> tweaks and adjustments to time frames and topics would improve the program
>> even more. I am happy to clarify any areas of the proposed program that are
>> not yet clear or fully fleshed out.
>>
>>
>> Note that I have incorporated the idea of a stage-setting panel or
>> speaker on Day 2 to provide us with a common knowledge base about the
>> future of the ICANN ecosystem. I welcome reactions to that idea, and, if
>> you think the idea has any merit, suggestions for possible
>> speakers/panelists (most likely remote participant(s)).****
>>
>>
>> You will note that the program still includes an evening reception on the
>> evening of Tuesday January 29 at the DoubleTree Hotel.  We anticipate that
>> you may wish to invite some local LA contacts or other potential outreach
>> connections.  We are tentatively setting the arrangements for 80 attendees
>> at the reception – including meeting participants.
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> *Meeting Report/Assessment:*
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Because this meeting is designated as a “pilot” project in the FY13 ICANN
>> Budget document, Staff will be preparing an assessment report after the
>> meeting concludes to assess its success.  Please expect a contact from
>> me in early February asking for your views about the meeting planning
>> effort and how the meeting went for you and your community members.****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> *Interest in a Programming Call?*
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Given travel schedules and time zone differences, I think the email-input
>> approach has worked fairly well.  Please let me know if any of you think
>> we would benefit from a final teleconference to iron out any differences
>> with respect to the agenda. If so, I would propose to schedule the call
>> some time later next week (December 6 or 7).****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Thanks, again, for your willingness to contribute to this effort.  I
>> appreciate all your advice and input.****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Best regards,****
>>
>> ** **
>>
>> Rob****
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Alain Berranger, B.Eng, MBA
>> Member, Board of Directors, CECI, 
>> http://www.ceci.ca<http://www.ceci.ca/en/about-ceci/team/board-of-directors/>
>> Executive-in-residence, Schulich School of Business,
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Executive-in-residence, Schulich School of Business, www.schulich.yorku.ca
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