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[npoc] Re: [community] Non-Commercial Stakeholder Group > Applicants to NCSG

  • To: Ken Bour <ken.bour@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Subject: [npoc] Re: [community] Non-Commercial Stakeholder Group > Applicants to NCSG
  • From: Alain Berranger <alain.berranger@xxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2013 17:26:54 -0500

Hi Ken,

One should not write email in moments of doubt, specially late in the
day!!!! My apologies for not following that rule!

The issue is not newness and I love learning but I think the problem is
simply deep shortage of volunteers' time... That is not a problem for you
to solve and to be clear, I'm very very appreciative of your efforts and
the quality of your work. I think NPOC (and that may be true for NCSG not
sure) does not represent livelihood options as it probably does on the CSG
side... A lot of the volunteers on the CSG side of the house have
ICANN-related work in their job description... I think the model needs
serious revisiting... I think there is a structural fault...

But that is my personal opinion!

Cheers, Alain

On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 12:05 AM, Ken Bour <ken.bour@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Hi Alain:****
>
> ** **
>
> I can appreciate your feeling of being overwhelmed. It must seem very new
> and quite foreign; however, all that I really did was redesign the Home
> Page so that finding topics is a bit more graphical and inviting
> (hopefully) than is typically the case with Wikis. If you look on the left
> navigation menu, you will see the same topic headings and, if you further
> expand each one, you will see familiar subordinate page structures.
> Material I added, as a starting point, was basically copied/pasted from
> other sources (e.g., NPOC website). Please be assured that the process for
> generating new content, editing existing pages, and adding
> comments/attachments, is exactly the same as it was before I designed the
> Home Page. ****
>
> ** **
>
> If you think it might be helpful, perhaps I could lead an orientation
> session for NPOC leaders and any members who are active in developing
> online content. I feel confident that, with a bit of explanation concerning
> the layout and organization, the site will appear less daunting. ****
>
> ** **
>
> I should also mention that Rob Hoggarth is spearheading internal ICANN
> discussions concerning how best to develop and share Wiki training
> materials. Options being considered include webinars, self-paced tutorials,
> and others.****
>
> ** **
>
> Please let me know what I can do to make the NPOC Wiki site more useful to
> you.****
>
> ** **
>
> Regards,****
>
> ** **
>
> Ken Bour****
>
> ** **
>
> *P.S. The NCSG space was recently redesigned at their request after
> having approved a prototype very similar in design to the NPOC Wiki space.
> *
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* Alain Berranger [mailto:alain.berranger@xxxxxxxxx]
> *Sent:* Sunday, February 10, 2013 10:28 PM
> *To:* Ken Bour (Confluence)
> *Cc:* Robert Hoggarth; Robin Gross; William Drake; npoc@xxxxxxxxx
> *Subject:* Fwd: [community] Non-Commercial Stakeholder Group > Applicants
> to NCSG****
>
> ** **
>
> Thanks Ken,****
>
> ** **
>
> It looks like a lot of work! My challenge is that I do not know where to
> start to use it and frankly I do not feel any ownership - it seems like one
> more thing to learn - so I cannot  see yet how it will make NPOC
> volunteers' work easier... Although we feel huge ownership of NPOC and just
> getting the feel that NCSG is also ours, frankly I just feel lost... I'm
> sure we will find ways forward but am at lost now to see how that will
> happen...****
>
> ** **
>
> Best regards, Alain****
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: *Ken Bour (Confluence)* <no-reply@xxxxxxxxx>
> Date: Thu, Feb 7, 2013 at 2:25 PM
> Subject: [community] Non-Commercial Stakeholder Group > Applicants to NCSG
> To: alain.berranger@xxxxxxxxx
>
> ****
>
> ****
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> Ken Bour <https://community.icann.org/display/~ken.bour> moved the page: *
> ***
> *Applicants to NCSG*
> <https://community.icann.org/display/gnsononcomstake/Applicants+to+NCSG>**
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> *From:*****
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> Non-Commercial Stakeholder 
> Group<https://community.icann.org/display/gnsononcomstake>>
> (OLD)-Membership<https://community.icann.org/display/gnsononcomstake/%28OLD%29-Membership>
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> *To:*****
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> Non-Commercial Stakeholder 
> Group<https://community.icann.org/display/gnsononcomstake>>
> Membership<https://community.icann.org/display/gnsononcomstake/Membership>
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Alain Berranger, B.Eng, MBA
Member, Board of Directors, CECI,
http://www.ceci.ca<http://www.ceci.ca/en/about-ceci/team/board-of-directors/>
Executive-in-residence, Schulich School of Business, www.schulich.yorku.ca
Treasurer, Global Knowledge Partnership Foundation, www.gkpfoundation.org
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Chair, NPOC, NCSG, ICANN, http://npoc.org/
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