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Re: [ga] If PIR is violating its own advisory charter, why do they expect to have .org renewed?

  • To: Veni Markovski <veni@xxxxxxxx>
  • Subject: Re: [ga] If PIR is violating its own advisory charter, why do they expect to have .org renewed?
  • From: Jeff Williams <jwkckid1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Mon, 16 Oct 2006 23:08:29 -0700

Veni and all,

  A bit after the fact, but better late than not at all.  Yet this resignation
doesn't change the fact he should never been on the Advisory Council
in the first place and all ICANN BoD members should have known
same.

Veni Markovski wrote:

> George,
> I was just informed that Michael Mann has resigned from the Advisory Council.
>
> Thereby the problem with PIR breaching it´s own procedures is solved.
>
> best,
> Veni
>
> At 09:21 PM 12.10.2006 '?.'  -0700, George Kirikos wrote:
> >Hello,
> >
> >According to the .org Advisory Council Charter:
> >
> >http://www.pir.org/PDFs/pir_ac_charter.pdf
> >
> >"Section 3:... No two members of the Council will be from the same
> >non-commercial organization."
> >
> >Michael Mann and Angela Stuber are both from Grassroots.org:
> >
> >http://www.pir.org/AboutPIR/CouncilMembers.aspx
> >http://www.grassroots.org/page.ww?section=Highlights&name=Content+Detail+-+Volunteer
> >http://www.grassroots.org/page.ww?section=About&name=Board+of+Directors
> >
> >Apparently, when this was brought to the attention of PIR, instead of
> >rectifying the issue, they "did not see a problem with it".
> >
> >http://www.domainstate.com/showthread.php3?s=&postid=327276#post327276
> >
> >I have nothing against Grassroots.org, but perhaps ICANN and the public
> >should seriously consider whether PIR, an organization that seemingly
> >has no regard for their own charter, should be operating such an
> >important registry as .org. Indeed, with presumptive renewal, it would
> >be next to impossible to remove a registry operator.
> >
> >This is yet another reason why presumptive renewal should never exist
> >in any registry agreement.
> >
> >Sincerely,
> >
> >George Kirikos
> >http://www.kirikos.com/
>
> Sincerely,
> Veni Markovski
> http://www.veni.com
>
> check also my blog:
> http://blog.veni.com

Regards,

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