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Username:	Watchman
Date/Time:	Wed, November 28, 2001 at 8:41 PM GMT
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Subject:	Apples and oranges and UDRP
Message:
Let's look at the case of Apple.  All companies named Apple, with a trademark on "apple", in all different industries, had a shot at apple.info and apple.biz.  Whoever registered it first got it.  That was fair. As far as UDRP, don't get me started.  There don't seem to be any standards in UDRP proceedings.  Many UDRP decisions pretty contradictory and arbitrary.  If you go with a panel rather than an individual arbiter, you have a much better chance of defending. At least we agree on that.

Message Thread:

• really good .info names approved - registered in sunriseperiod — trademark, November 27 @ 11:29 PM (3/31)
• These names were challenged and transferred to AirSpeed — arbitrage, November 28 @ 1:58 AM (0/0)
• he'll lose 'em — DaveKing2, November 28 @ 1:51 AM (2/7)
• Still will be frauds — Garry Anderson, November 28 @ 11:23 AM (2/4)
• Are multinationals like Dupont now happy to openly commit fraud? — spot, November 28 @ 1:00 PM (1/1)
• Why Governments help — Garry Anderson, November 28 @ 1:27 PM (0/0)
• hmm ... — DaveKing2, November 28 @ 12:19 AM (1/1)
• Ambiguity — Garry Anderson, November 28 @ 1:30 PM (0/0)
• You seem to believe everything Afilias says, Dave — arbitrage, November 28 @ 2:01 AM (1/1)
• Alas, their track history has taught me otherwise! — DaveKing2, November 28 @ 3:50 AM (0/0)
• can anybody explain — Garry Anderson, November 28 @ 1:04 AM (1/21)
• I can explain how you're wrong.  Time to tee off.. — Watchman, November 28 @ 2:33 PM (3/20)
• WARNING - Why Watchman defends Afilias — Garry Anderson, November 28 @ 7:50 PM (2/11)
• Garry squats on WIPO — Watchman, November 28 @ 8:45 PM (3/5)
• Watchman - prove you are not a smeghead — Garry Anderson, November 28 @ 11:00 PM (0/0)
• Problem — 410, November 28 @ 10:31 PM (0/0)
• Disagree, and don't like the attitude — spot, November 28 @ 9:05 PM (1/2)
• nope — Watchman, November 28 @ 9:54 PM (1/1)
• No UDRP for .uk domains — Garry Anderson, November 28 @ 11:48 PM (0/0)
• Garry's pretzel logic — Watchman, November 28 @ 8:11 PM (1/4)
• Evidence seems compelling. — Garry Anderson, November 28 @ 11:43 PM (2/3)
• Not Me! — DaveKing2, November 29 @ 6:21 AM (0/0)
• Bwa-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha! — Watchman, November 29 @ 4:05 AM (1/1)
• Anybody who supports Afilias — Garry Anderson, November 29 @ 9:16 AM (0/0)
• Golf is not you game - lame brain.. — Garry Anderson, November 28 @ 7:14 PM (2/4)
• OK...here is your proof — Watchman, November 28 @ 9:16 PM (1/1)
• Tell me something I don't know — Garry Anderson, November 28 @ 11:19 PM (0/0)
• Apples and oranges and UDRP — Watchman, November 28 @ 8:41 PM (1/1)
• Apple and UDRP — Garry Anderson, November 29 @ 12:07 AM (0/0)
• Generic Names... — onmove, November 28 @ 6:01 PM (2/2)
• No offense taken Amar! :)  EOM — DaveKing2, November 29 @ 6:43 AM (0/0)
• Trademarks have to disown generic words... — Garry Anderson, November 28 @ 7:20 PM (0/0)

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