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Username: Populous
Date/Time: Sat, March 3, 2001 at 2:37 AM GMT
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Subject: I am making sens and you know it

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Your problem is that you start from the premise that the US is perfect and that it therefore has a God-given right to rule. There is a mountain of evidence suggesting the US cannot run a lemonade stand without oppression and corruption.
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I never said that.  I just said I would rather have the US CONTINUE to control it than some other country such as China or Iraq.  Maybe you could tell me what country you are from?


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You say that you don't care about the world and that your only concern is your own benefit. That's the me-me-me syndrome. You have narrowed your mind to the size of your wallet and lost social conscience in the process. I am still capable to accept decisions against my best interest if it benefits the community at large. And I would hope there are many more people like me left in this world.
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Social conscience?  For the Internet? Please I think there will be more freedom of speech if the US continues to control it than if we give it to the UN.  Maybe you can tell me how much money and help your country sends to other countries?  I am not even going to talk about my governments contributions but private charity is pretty high in this country. 


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Re-Yahoo, you are ranting big time. There is absolutely no Court of law in France that would punish somebody for something totally outside his/her control. Get serious.
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Well they are trying.   That is all I can say.  I know you are not interested in facts but if you find any reference to the contrary please post it here.


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You say "I am very interested in talking about specifics" and yet when I raise the example of seeds from India, you conveniently snip it. Is this the American way?
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I said I did not know the specifics of this. I put that in my post.  Now that I ask for the Specifics you are not interested in talking anymore?  I asked if Americans had bought them or were given them as gifts or jus stole them?  Please be specific THIS time. 


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Does the world really want to hand out control of the Internet to a country
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Ummm,  you cannot hand over control to someone who already has control.  This is what you seem angry about.


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which has a long track record of selective enforcement of the United Nations resolutions, protecting Israel and puncing on Arab countries? You should dig a bit deeper in some of the investigative work independent people have done on the antics of your country. The US is very good at doing some really ugly things and covering it up with a blanket of PR bullshit spread over the docile corporate media. Remember the baby milk factory in Iraq? Well, it was a baby milk factory as independent investigators demonstrated. Remember the incubators that Saddam Hussein stole? When there never was any incubators stolen but we know today that a PR firm was paid $11 million to "manage" public opinion (ie create enough outrage so as to make the war possible). I am not making a judgement on whether the was with Iraq was warranted or not, it is just to illustrate that when to comes to accountability and telling the truth, there are many stories which clearly show the US government cannot be trusted.
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Blah, Blah, Blah, You country must be a beautiful place and everyone is so nice.


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Another point is the rampant greed of corporations and their lack of ethics. The main instrument of world communication CANNOT be owned by cowboys who have no other purpose in life than ripping people off on the stockmarket by making their stock go up and down like a yoyo.
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Why not?  You say it CANNOT, you really mean this would be impossible?  Or it should not?  Please be more thoughtful in your posts.


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Where the Internet started is irrelevant. If you want to talk about where the Internet came from, talk about ALL the inventions over the centuries which made it possible, not just what you conveniently single out for your immediate purpose. Nobody woke up one morning and invented everything that is used today in making the Net a reality.
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What lost your appetite for the facts?? Now you wish to change the subject?  I am talking about my tax dollars building it and maintaining it here.   I am sure your country is not so overly generous that they would hand control over it if they had invested the money in it.  As a matter of fact you want control of it now!
BTW approx. 90% of Internet traffic flows through VA.  Someone has to pay for the infrastructure.

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What really matters is what the internet IS, not where it originated from. And the Internet is NOT the USA and as each day goes by, more and more people outside the US get on the Internet. It will reach a point where America will be a small part of the Internet. So why should the US own it?
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Because we paid for it and we invented it.  Why should we give control of it away? So the Chinese government can make sure I can never post anything critical of China on it? 


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At the end of the day, you're just a drop in the ocean and I am here to remind you of this. If you want your own Internet, do what the French have done and start a Minitel. I am looking forward to this giant repository of American culture.
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We did start our own Internet and we shared it with you now you are on it trying to take a control of it! You were never here to show us we are a drop in the Ocean you were here to post small minded bigoted remarks. I would never have posted to you originally but I felt I should post a response to your first bigoted post.  Why should we give control over what we paid for and created to bigots like you?  Let me know and please be specific.  If you ignore things you do not wish to talk about this time it is just proof of your ignorance.

I asked for the history of the Internet and you dodged that because you know you are wrong. 

Kids!

-Populous   

     
     
     
     

 

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