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Re: [bc-gnso] for expedited review: draft BC comment on registry proposal for Continuity Operations Instrument (COI)
- To: Ron Andruff <randruff@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, "'Phil Corwin'" <psc@xxxxxxxxxxx>, Marilyn Cade <marilynscade@xxxxxxxxxxx>, Steve DelBianco <sdelbianco@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>, "'Bc GNSO list '" <bc-gnso@xxxxxxxxx>
- Subject: Re: [bc-gnso] for expedited review: draft BC comment on registry proposal for Continuity Operations Instrument (COI)
- From: Steve DelBianco <sdelbianco@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2011 00:25:20 +0000
Very thoughtful comments, Ron. Though you go well beyond the scope of this
public comment, which is to assess the alternative method proposed by the
registries. Given the shortened review time, I don't think we can ask our
members to assess and approve your more extensive remarks.
Suggestion: In your own capacity, why don't you submit the comments you've
drafted below.
The BC draft comments are supportive of you in so far as we are not endorsing
the alternative method.
Jon Nevett: can you extract anything from Ron and Phil's remarks (below) that
is within the scope of evaluating the registry alternative for a CO Fund?
You'd need to circulate a draft 2 by Wednesday, please.
Thanks to all for your contributions!
--Steve
From: Ronald Andruff <randruff@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:randruff@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
Organization: RNA Partners
Date: Mon, 28 Nov 2011 09:01:14 -0500
To: 'Phil Corwin' <psc@xxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:psc@xxxxxxxxxxx>>, Marilyn Cade
<marilynscade@xxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:marilynscade@xxxxxxxxxxx>>, Steve DelBianco
<sdelbianco@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:sdelbianco@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>, 'Bc GNSO list '
<bc-gnso@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:bc-gnso@xxxxxxxxx>>
Subject: RE: [bc-gnso] for expedited review: draft BC comment on registry
proposal for Continuity Operations Instrument (COI)
Thanks for your input, Phil. As always informed and measured.
However, the issues that I am having difficulty with – in both the COI and the
COF – are:
· both require an inordinate amount of capital be ‘parked’;
money that could otherwise by more usefully deployed by new gTLD managers in
developing and marketing their string to their potential registrants;
· tying up financial resources for a period of 3 years is an
inordinate amount of time considering that a failing registry can be switched
over to failover system in less than 24-48 hours, if appropriate technical
provisions are in place (i.e. prior to the new registry being ‘turned on’ in
the root);
The key question, in our view, is the one ICANN notes in its request for
publiccomment post: Who should determine how much reserve must be set aside? In
my view, it should be the new registry applicant in conjunction with whom they
choose as their backend provider. If an applicant selects an incumbent backend
provider, Verisign as an example, that applicant should be able to choose the
same failover system that Verisign has in place as its failover. In such case,
the user protection that ICANN is looking for is clearly already in place and
operational instantaneously; and the marginal cost, if any at all, would be
determined between the applicant and its provider.
If an applicant selects a non-incumbent provider, ICANN need only mandate
thatbackend provider to meet the same failover standards as incumbent
registries have in place. ICANN should NOT be looking to new registry
applicants – which are effectively ‘marketing organizations’ that within ICANN
nomenclature are called ‘registry operators’ – but rather to those entities
that will, in point of fact, be managing the technological part of the registry
business, i.e., said third part backend operators.
As for winding down a failed registry in a controlled manner – which thereal
issue ICANN should be addressing here – applicants should be responsible for
establishing such a plan with their backend registry operator under
to-be-established ICANN policy guidelines.
Finally, in this discussion one must also consider the fact that not one of the
registries that ‘run’ the Internet today have ever failed in the history of
ICANN. And should a failure have occurred, the incumbent registry operator’s
own failover redundancy systems would have kicked in. I underscore that the
word ‘registry’ should be understood as ‘backend registry provider’.
In our view, it appears that ICANN is simply looking for another way:
· to raise the capital investment required for new TLD
operators to yet a higher threshold to exclude large numbers of new potential
registries that do not have deep- pocket, brand TLD financial backing; or
· to develop yet another pool of applicant money that ICANN
will have sole discretion over spending when, and if, a registry operator fails
in their mission to market their product.
Neither case is acceptable, particularly when viewed in light of the fact that
ICANN has already earmarked USD 25,000 from each application fee to cover sunk
costs on the new TLD program. (Note that ICANN is a not-for-profit organization
that by legal structure must spend its full budget each year and start the next
year with a fresh slate as opposed to a for-profit corporation whose
shareholders would expect such investment recovery.) In addition to that
recovery cost, an additional USD 60,000 is earmarked to a ‘risk fund’ (read:
law suit fund) to enable ICANN to fight battles such as the current .XXX
lawsuit. Very few applicants will end up in ICANN related law suits, but all
pay to defend those few that do. This is seriously flawed.
So in summary, on top of USD 25,000 and USD 65,000, ICANN has created a COI
whereby each applicant will have to pony up USD1 million + (according to the
slides deck presented in Dakar), which ICANN will spend as it wishes in
thehighly unlikely situation that a registry operator (‘marketing
organization’) ‘fails’ despite the fact that said registry’s end-users’ domain
names will continue to resolve without issue.
I am not a technical person, nor a lawyer, but I struggle to understand why
complicated instruments such as the COI or the COF are even being contemplated
when all backend service providers already have their own redundancy systems in
place and operational.
For these reasons I propose the BC push back on both and replace them with an
insistence that every backend service provider meet a particular standard to
ensure that there is no impact on end-users irrespective of which domain name
they register and whether or not the front-end of those registries remain
operational.
In the interest of full disclosure, dotSport LLC, a company for which I am
president and CEO, is considering an application for a new TLD.
Kind regards,
RA
Ronald N. Andruff
RNA Partners, Inc.
-----Original Message-----
From: Phil Corwin [mailto:psc@xxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Friday, November 25, 2011 1:54 PM
To: Marilyn Cade ; Ron Andruff ;
sdelbianco@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:sdelbianco@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> ; Bc GNSO list
Subject: RE: [bc-gnso] for expedited review: draft BC comment on registry
proposal for Continuity Operations Instrument (COI)
I appreciate the work that Jon has done on this draft and hope that these
additional comments are useful.
The COF proposal reminds me of deposit insurance for banks (pre-funded) as well
as state insurance funds (generally post-insolvency funded) -- but the
difference is that both are accompanied by rather substantial regulatory
regimes to manage the risk to the common fund, far beyond anything ICANN has
ever engaged in vis-à-vis registries, much less desirable in the DNS context. A
COF model basically has all registries paying into a common fund to be used to
extendoperations for at least 3 years of a registry which either has a flawed
business model or is operated incompetently (and that is always accompanied by
moral hazard), while a COI model has each individual registry purchasing a
financial guarantee tailored to its own scope of operation (I am neutral onwhen
the COI fund size should be revealed -- but what I am wondering is howwill it
be set, and will it be adjusted at regular intervals post-launch toaccount for
variations in domain registrations and other profit/loss factors?).
Also, who is operating the failed registry for the 3-year minimum period (the
same management that steered it into the rocks), and is it wise to set a
minimumthat's so long if annual losses are considerable? And what is the end
game for the registry at the end of the 3 years? In the bank and insurance
world, any regulatory intervention that triggers a hit on the insurance fund is
generally accompanied by very rapid takeover and merger of the failed entity
into a solvent and well-managed one.
So overall, while open to counter-arguments, I think I am leaning toward the
COI approach because it places the fiscal responsibility on each registry, and
that requires much less regulatory oversight than a pooled funds COF approach
-- but certainly agree that the COI instrument amount should be flexible at the
inception based on business model and anticipated registrations, and then
reviewed regularly post-launch for adequacy. COI also seems preferable because,
as the draft notes, it provides more registrant protection, which is the main
point of the exercise.
Philip S. Corwin, Founding Principal
Virtualaw LLC
1155 F Street, NW
Suite 1050
Washington, DC 20004
202-559-8597/Direct
202-559-8750/Fax
202-255-6172/cell
"Luck is the residue of design" -- Branch Rickey
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-bc-gnso@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:owner-bc-gnso@xxxxxxxxx>
[mailto:owner-bc-gnso@xxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Marilyn Cade
Sent: Friday, November 25, 2011 12:50 PM
To: Ron Andruff ; sdelbianco@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:sdelbianco@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> ;
Bc GNSO list
Subject: Re: [bc-gnso] for expedited review: draft BC comment on registry
proposal for Continuity Operations Instrument (COI)
Will read this. I am having some trouble with how this wprks, but also think
that this may be an opportunity for our BC request for improvements for IPR -
ifthey can consider such a big change in this, why not still in ITR mechanisms.
Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T
-----Original Message-----
From: Ron Andruff <randruff@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:randruff@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
Date: Fri, 25 Nov 2011 10:32:40
To: <sdelbianco@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:sdelbianco@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>>;
<bc-gnso@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:bc-gnso@xxxxxxxxx>>
Subject: RE: [bc-gnso] for expedited review: draft BC comment on registry
proposal for Continuity Operations Instrument (COI)
Thanks to Steve and Jon for this first cut. It is a shame that time is so
short because a considerable amount of work still needs to be done on this
topic over the coming few days. I will bring some thoughts to this discussion
in a later post, but thought that the excerpt that Steve linked out to would be
a helpful start and have thus posted them below for member's consideration.
Public comment is requested concerning the recently received from the proposal
forEstablishment of a Continued Operations Fund. This proposal comes from the
Registries Stakeholder Group (RySG) and is accompanied by an addendum (Proposed
Continuity Operations Instrument) produced by the Afilias and PIR, supported by
some other registries, registry applicants and other interested parties.
The RySG proposal offers an alternative approach to the existing Continuing
Operations Instrument that is part of the New gTLD Program. Here are some
questions that public comment respondents could consider regarding the RySG
alternative proposal as well as the existing continuing instrument model
offered by ICANN.
1. Considering ICANN's Mission, what is the appropriate role for ICANN to
create a fund or act as an insurer? Under which circumstances?
* Can the same end be accomplished through a third party?
* Will an insurance company underwrite this?
2. The current COI model outlined on the Applicant Guidebook (see:
http://newgtlds.icann.org/applicants/agb) is designed to provide some
safeguards regardless of the number of gTLD registries that fail.
For the existing COI model:
* There will be an incentive to underestimate the projected size of the
newregistry, and therefore lower the cost of the COI to below what it should be
to protect registrants. How could this be addressed?
For the COF model:
* Who should determine how much reserve must be set aside?
* What criteria should be used to ensure sufficient funding and a mechanism
to provide registrant protections?
1. In the estimates shown in the addendum (Proposed Continuity Operations
Instrument), what are the assumptions can be made in creating the basis for the
proposed fund?
2. How should the both the existing COI model and the newly proposed COF
modelensure that it appropriately meets the needs of multiple registries sizes
from small to large?
3. Will the allocation of costs need to be adjusted over time if new registries
enter the pool after the target balance is achieved? How can this account for
some level of predictability and fairness for all registries?
4. What appropriate level of internal resources should ICANN have for
collections, tracking of deposits and outlays from the fund?
5. What are the foreseeable challenges to move funds in timely manner to
various parties as required responding to emergency situations?
One comment I would leave with you all is that it should be well-noted that
ICANN already extracts USD 60,000 from each applicant as a risk fee without
detailed explanation as to its use. Most applicants understand that this
moneywill be used by ICANN legal to fight lawsuits that may arise from the new
gTLD program, but find it an uncomfortable "tax" which will probably be used to
fight battles that are not of their making. Food for thought.
Kind regards,
RA
Ronald N. Andruff
President
RNA Partners, Inc.
220 Fifth Avenue
New York, New York 10001
+ 1 212 481 2820 ext. 11
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From: owner-bc-gnso@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:owner-bc-gnso@xxxxxxxxx>
[mailto:owner-bc-gnso@xxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Steve DelBianco
Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2011 7:06 PM
To: 'bc-GNSO@xxxxxxxxx<mailto:'bc-GNSO@xxxxxxxxx> GNSO list'
Subject: [bc-gnso] for expedited review: draft BC comment on registry proposal
for Continuity Operations Instrument (COI)
Per discussion in Dakar and on our 10-Nov member call, here is a draft of BC
comments on the aproposed alternative to the for Continuity Operations
Instrument in the newgTLD Program.
Jon Nevett prepared this draft.
This comment period and docs are described here
<https://www.icann.org/en/public-comment/rysg-proposal-cof-17oct11-en.htm> .
These comments are due 2-Dec, giving us 10 days for review and approval. This
is less than the 14-day period required in our charter, so I am requesting an
expedited review period. If any member has substantive objections to the
expedited review, we can go to 14 days and submit our comments after the ICANN
due date.
All BC members are invited to suggest edits. Please use track changes and
circulate to BC list.
Thanks again to Jon for taking the lead on this.
Steve DelBianco
vice chair for policy coordination, BC
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