Re: [bc-gnso] .Feedback re questions regarding list of imporovements to the new gTLD program

["Smith, Bill" <bill.smith@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

I think item #9 should be reconsidered as one where the train has already left 
the station, perhaps with bloodied passengers and baggage trailing behind. Do 
we really believe that submitting a suggestion to improve communications 
regarding the new gTLD process, even if accepted, will have any impact on a 
program due to launch in about 24 hours?

I'm certain improvements to the program could be made but have doubts that any 
improvements developed in ICANN time would have significant impact. Developing 
a new plan, even in the best of circumstances, takes time and effort. In 
addition, it is entirely possible, if not likely, that any ICANN staff that 
would work on the development of such a plan have been tasked with responding 
to media and other queries once the program doors are opened. Given the media 
attention of the past few weeks, I would be surprised if this was a quiet 
launch.

If we submit suggestions, I think they should be specific,  well-considered, 
timely, and  implementable. In my opinion, item 9 fails several of those tests.


On Jan 10, 2012, at 2:58 PM, Marilyn Cade wrote:


Mike, I am sorry you had to miss the call today, but there will be a 
transcript. Thanks for the follow up inquiry.

Let me summarize what took place: as you know from the agenda,we had a robust 
set of other topics to address, and did that. I am sorry that you missed those 
discussions as well, but again, refer you to the transcript and if there is 
something specific in the rest of the call, let me or Steve or Chris know about 
any questions.

On the specific questions you asked about the work on the 'list":  we discussed 
the list on the call.

Steve provided information on items when there has been a BC previous position 
of relevance.

The next step is for a further circulation of the items in a format that shows 
where there has been prior BC position of relevance [due to Steve's great work, 
much of that is done], and identifying key concerns, or agreement or 
disagreement.  I am working with our Secretariat to turn around that document 
and it will be reviewed with the Executive Committee for checking on its 
'understandability', and then posted to the BC list for further input and 
discussion.

You will be able to comment, as will all other BC members on all of the topics.
Some are newer than others, but there has been interest in these from more than 
one BC member, just as there is disagreement from more than one BC member on 
some.  Again, most of them are existing BC positions and do not break new 
ground.

However, we are discussing  some new items in this process.  As you know, the 
Charter does provide a process for dealing with areas of agreement, and 
disagreement when we are taking up a new position.

While some members may end up disagreeing with some of the items, others are 
supporting the need for this work. We are trying to serve the full BC 
membership.

So, I am not removing any of the items at this time, as other members are 
expressing interest in discussing them. Though this process we will find the 
areas of broadest agreement on any new items. For those already documented, 
this is a restatement of that support and organizing and prioritizing. As Ron 
Andruff  noted, it may be that we will remove some items, if they are 
addressed, or if in the end, they don't gain broad BC support. [e.g. the 
multiple script example].

 I had earlier thought that we should work on this inside the BC, but as you 
and Mikey have asked to have the list made public, the next version will be 
posted on the BC-GNSO list, as you have requested.

The transcript will be available in a day or two, and Bene will both post it to 
the BC and put it up on the BC wiki. For any members who missed the call, that 
will give them a good update both on the other topics for the BC call, 
including activities at the GNSO Council.

If anyone missed the call and wants a quick update from me via email on any 
topic on the BC agenda, just send a private email and I'll do a quick paragraph 
for you on the particular topic you want more detail on.

I do want to thank all the members for their participation in the BC calls. We 
are typically 19-23 participants, which is an excellent turn out for the BC 
discussions.

Thanks as well to the other officers anc Councilors and to our Secretariat for 
their active leadership and work! And, I also want to thank Mikey for his great 
work on DSSA.
[I changed the thread in the subject as it is getting a little confusing to 
follow. Perhaps for future discussions on this topic, we might use the subject 
I provided, or suggest a clearer one. ]



Marilyn Cade
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Subject: [bc-gnso] FW: [Bc-private] URGENT -- attachment for one of our 
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Date: Tue, 10 Jan 2012 13:05:25 -0800

Marilyn, thanks for compiling this list.  Can you or other proponents of these 
proposals please provide more clarity re items 5, 6 and 8?



Re no. 5, is this referring to our past position, calling for lowering of a 
successful score in the Community Priority Evaluation from 14 points to 13 or 
12 points?  If so, we should just state that again.  If not, then please 
explain what exactly you hope to review and for what purpose.



Re no. 6, what specific harm do you seek to address, and what suggestions for 
improvement are proposed?  Nearly every dictionary word is someone’s trademark.



Re no. 8, who actually supports this proposal?  How would you propose it would 
work in practice, where nearly every dictionary word is someone’s trademark?  
Interesting inclusion of the phrase “or include the identical trademark match 
name”, that would give extremely powerful rights to anyone with a dictionary 
word, or an acronym, as a trademark.  ING comes to mind immediately…  Also 
interesting to mention ‘reserve names which meet certain criteria’, could you 
elaborate as to what sorts of criteria you are considering, in order for a 
trademark owner to achieve this new blocking right, as opposed to all other 
trademark owners who might want the same right?



Until there is some further clarity and specific agreement of the BC per our 
Charter, those “proposals” should be removed from the list of suggested 
improvements.  Otherwise the recommendations are consistent with prior agreed 
BC positions.



Thanks,
Mike



Mike Rodenbaugh
RODENBAUGH LAW
tel/fax: +1.415.738.8087
http://rodenbaugh.com<http://rodenbaugh.com/>



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DEAR MEMBERS



As noted in the agenda that our Secretariat distributed, and committed in 
earlier emails, I compiled a list of the various improvements to the new gTLD 
program -- some are taken from the earlier draft letter that was the topic of 
discussion from mid Dec into January; and others are from conversations and 
inputs from some members.



On today's call, we will discuss these items, and add any new ones that members 
want to also discuss.
We will then circulate the list in a format that allows insert of individual 
views per topic from members via email.



We have a good amount of work ahead of us.   We are working together in good 
faith, and I trust, in a calm and professional tone.



Marilyn Cade
BC Chair