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RE: [bc-gnso] Fake renewal notices

  • To: "Chris Chaplow" <chris@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>, bc-gnso@xxxxxxxxx
  • Subject: RE: [bc-gnso] Fake renewal notices
  • From: <john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2012 09:41:15 -0700

<html><body><span style="font-family:Verdana; color:#000000; 
font-size:10pt;"><div>Chris,</div><div><br></div><div>In his presentation 
yesterday to the GNSO Council, Mikey O'Connor, lead on the Fake Renewal Notices 
drafting team said they sought to determine if there were "smoke or fire and we 
found fire."&nbsp; But he also said the problem was one source.&nbsp; 
</div><div><br></div><div>Is this your experience, 
too?</div><div><br></div><div>Berard<br></div>
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-------- Original Message --------<br>
Subject: RE: [bc-gnso] Fake renewal notices<br>
From: "Chris Chaplow" &lt;<a 
href="mailto:chris@xxxxxxxxxxxxx";>chris@xxxxxxxxxxxxx</a>&gt;<br>
Date: Thu, March 15, 2012 3:17 am<br>
To: &lt;<a href="mailto:bc-gnso@xxxxxxxxx";>bc-gnso@xxxxxxxxx</a>&gt;<br>
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</style><div class="WordSection1"><div class="MsoNormal" 
style="font-size:12pt;">John, Marin, Sarah<o:p></o:p></div><div 
class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></div><div 
class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span lang="EN-US">Client contacted 
me today again about an URGENT communication they just 
received<o:p></o:p></span></div><div class="MsoNormal" 
style="font-size:12pt;"><span lang="EN-US">I have replaced the actual client’ 
domain name with &nbsp;‘name’ as this is a public 
list.<o:p></o:p></span></div><div class="MsoNormal" 
style="font-size:12pt;"><span lang="EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></div><div 
class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span 
lang="EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></div><div class="MsoNormal" 
style="font-size:12pt;"><span 
style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#003366" 
lang="EN-US">(It's very urgent, Please transfer this email to your CEO or 
appropriate person, Thanks)&nbsp; 
<br>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
 <br>Dear CEO/Principal,<br>&nbsp;<br>This is&nbsp;Neil Dong---Senior 
Consultant of domain name registration and solution center in china. have 
something to confirm with you. We formally received an application on March 
15th, 2012, one company which self-styled "Cakebake Investments co.,Ltd" were 
applying to register " name " as Network Brand and following domain 
names:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></div><div 
class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span 
style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#003366" 
lang="EN-US">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; <br>"<br><a 
href="http://name.jp";>name.jp</a>&nbsp; <br><a 
href="http://name.com.my";>name.com.my</a>&nbsp;&nbsp; <br><a 
href="http://name.sg";>name.sg</a>&nbsp;&nbsp; <br><a 
href="http://name.com.sg";>name.com.sg</a> <br><a 
href="http://name.kr";>name.kr</a>&nbsp;&nbsp; <br><a 
href="http://name.co.kr";>name.co.kr</a>&nbsp; <br><a 
href="http://name.ae";>name.ae</a>&nbsp; <br><a 
href="http://name.vn";>name.vn</a>&nbsp;&nbsp; <br><a 
href="http://name.com.vn";>name.com.vn</a>"<o:p></o:p></span></div><div 
class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span 
style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#003366" 
lang="EN-US"><br>After our initial checking, we found that the brand name 
applied for registration are as same as&nbsp; your company</span><span 
style="color:#003366" lang="EN-US">’</span><span 
style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#003366" 
lang="EN-US">s name and brand, so we need to check with you whether your 
company has authorized that company to register these names. If you authorized 
this, we will finish the registration at once. If your company has no 
relationships with that company nor do not authorized, please reply to us 
within 7 workdays,if we can't get any information from yours over 7 workdays, 
we will unconditionally approve the application submitted by "Cakebake 
Investments co.,Ltd" .<br>Thanks for your cooperation.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
</span><span style="color:black" lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></div><div 
class="MsoNormal" style="font-size:12pt;"><span 
style="font-family:&quot;Arial&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;;color:#003366" 
lang="EN-US">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
 <br>Best Regards,</span><span style="color:black" 
lang="EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></div><div class="MsoNormal" 
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Roman&quot;,&quot;serif&quot;"><o:p></o:p></span></div><ul type="disc"><li 
class="MsoNormal" 
style="color:black;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l1
 level1 lfo1;background:white"><em><span 
style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">To</span></em><span
 style="font-size:13.5pt">: 
&lt;john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx&gt;<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoNormal" 
style="color:black;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l1
 level1 lfo1;background:white"><em><span 
style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;" 
lang="EN-US">Subject</span></em><span style="font-size:13.5pt" lang="EN-US">: 
RE: [bc-gnso] Fake renewal notices<o:p></o:p></span></li><li class="MsoNormal" 
style="color:black;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l1
 level1 lfo1;background:white"><em><span 
style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">From</span></em><span
 style="font-size:13.5pt">: martinsutton@xxxxxxxx<o:p></o:p></span></li><li 
class="MsoNormal" 
style="color:black;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;mso-list:l1
 level1 lfo1;background:white"><em><span 
style="font-size:13.5pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">Date</span></em><span
 style="font-size:13.5pt">: Wed, 14 Mar 2012 17:50:11 
+0000<o:p></o:p></span></li></ul><div class="MsoNormal" 
style="font-size:12pt;text-align:center" align="center"><hr style="color:black" 
noshade="noshade" size="2" width="100%" align="center"></div><divre 
style="background:white;orphans: 2;text-align:-webkit-auto;widows: 
2;-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto;-webkit-text-stroke-width: 
0px;word-spacing:0px"><span style="color:black" 
lang="EN-US">John,<o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre style="background:white"><span 
style="color:black" lang="EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></pre><pre 
style="background:white"><span style="color:black" lang="EN-US">My experience 
is similar, although I have not captured the metrics.&nbsp; I 
<o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre style="background:white"><span style="color:black" 
lang="EN-US">often receive (third-hand via tech/admin email addresses) slamming 
emails, <o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre style="background:white"><span 
style="color:black" lang="EN-US">rather than fake renewal notices, suggesting 
that domains are about to be <o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre 
style="background:white"><span style="color:black" lang="EN-US">registered 
which include my brand, offering me an opportunity to jump-in 
<o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre style="background:white"><span style="color:black" 
lang="EN-US">and claim it, along with a bunch of 
others.<o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre style="background:white"><span 
style="color:black" lang="EN-US"> <o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre 
style="background:white"><span style="color:black" lang="EN-US">Kind 
regards,<o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre style="background:white"><span 
style="color:black" lang="EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></pre><pre 
style="background:white"><span style="color:black" 
lang="EN-US">Martin<o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre style="background:white"><span 
style="color:black" lang="EN-US">Martin C SUTTON <o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre 
style="background:white"><span style="color:black" lang="EN-US">Group Risk 
<o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre style="background:white"><span style="color:black" 
lang="EN-US">Manager, Group Fraud Risk and Intelligence | HSBC HOLDINGS PLC 
HGHQ<o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre style="background:white"><span 
style="color:black" lang="EN-US">Group Security &amp; Fraud 
Risk<o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre style="background:white"><span 
style="color:black" lang="EN-US">8 Canada Square,Canary Wharf,London,E14 
5HQ,United Kingdom<o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre style="background:white"><span 
style="color:black" 
lang="EN-US">________________________________________________________________<o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre
 style="background:white"><span style="color:black" 
lang="EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></pre><pre style="background:white"><span 
style="color:black" lang="EN-US">Phone.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;<span 
class="skypepnhcontainer">&nbsp;</span><span 
class="skypepnhleftspan">&nbsp;&nbsp;</span><span 
class="skypepnhdropartflagspan">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</span><span
 class="skypepnhdropartspan">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</span><span 
class="skypepnhtextspan">+44 (0)20 7991 8074</span><span 
class="skypepnhrightspan">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</span><span 
class="skypepnhcontainer">&nbsp;</span> / 7991 8074<o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre 
style="background:white"><span style="color:black" 
lang="EN-US">Mobile.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;<span 
class="skypepnhcontainer">&nbsp;</span><span 
class="skypepnhleftspan">&nbsp;&nbsp;</span><span 
class="skypepnhdropartflagspan">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</span><span
 class="skypepnhdropartspan">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</span><span 
class="skypepnhtextspan">+44 (0) 7774556680</span><span 
class="skypepnhrightspan">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</span><span 
class="skypepnhcontainer">&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre 
style="background:white"><span style="color:black" 
lang="EN-US">Email.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; 
martinsutton@xxxxxxxx<o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre 
style="background:white"><span style="color:black" 
lang="EN-US">________________________________________________________________<o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre
 style="background:white"><span style="color:black" 
lang="EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></pre><pre style="background:white"><span 
style="color:black" lang="EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></pre><pre 
style="background:white"><span style="color:black" 
lang="EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></pre><pre style="background:white"><span 
style="color:black" lang="EN-US">From:<o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre 
style="background:white"><span style="color:black" 
lang="EN-US">&lt;john@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx&gt;<o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre 
style="background:white"><span style="color:black" 
lang="EN-US">To:<o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre style="background:white"><span 
style="color:black" lang="EN-US">"Deutsch,&nbsp; Sarah B" 
&lt;sarah.b.deutsch@xxxxxxxxxxx&gt;, "'Chris Chaplow'" 
<o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre style="background:white"><span style="color:black" 
lang="EN-US">&lt;chris@xxxxxxxxxxxxx&gt;, "bc-gnso@xxxxxxxxx" 
&lt;bc-gnso@xxxxxxxxx&gt;<o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre 
style="background:white"><span style="color:black" 
lang="EN-US">Date:<o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre style="background:white"><span 
style="color:black" lang="EN-US">14/03/2012 17:40<o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre 
style="background:white"><span style="color:black" 
lang="EN-US">Subject:<o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre 
style="background:white"><span style="color:black" lang="EN-US">RE: [bc-gnso] 
Fake renewal notices<o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre style="background:white"><span 
style="color:black" lang="EN-US">Sent by:<o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre 
style="background:white"><span style="color:black" 
lang="EN-US">owner-bc-gnso@xxxxxxxxx<o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre 
style="background:white"><span style="color:black" 
lang="EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></pre><pre style="background:white"><span 
style="color:black" lang="EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></pre><pre 
style="background:white"><span style="color:black" 
lang="EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></pre><pre style="background:white"><span 
style="color:black" lang="EN-US">Sarah,<o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre 
style="background:white"><span style="color:black" 
lang="EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></pre><pre style="background:white"><span 
style="color:black" lang="EN-US">Any sense if the 25 a year you get is more, 
less or about the same as <o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre 
style="background:white"><span style="color:black" lang="EN-US">other 
similar-sized and positioned companies?<o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre 
style="background:white"><span style="color:black" 
lang="EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></pre><pre style="background:white"><span 
style="color:black" lang="EN-US">Berard<o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre 
style="background:white"><span style="color:black" lang="EN-US">-------- 
Original Message --------<o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre 
style="background:white"><span style="color:black" lang="EN-US">Subject: RE: 
[bc-gnso] Fake renewal notices<o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre 
style="background:white"><span style="color:black" lang="EN-US">From: "Deutsch, 
Sarah B" &lt;sarah.b.deutsch@xxxxxxxxxxx&gt;<o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre 
style="background:white"><span style="color:black" lang="EN-US">Date: Wed, 
March 14, 2012 8:36 am<o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre 
style="background:white"><span style="color:black" lang="EN-US">To: "'Chris 
Chaplow'" &lt;chris@xxxxxxxxxxxxx&gt;, 
"bc-gnso@xxxxxxxxx"<o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre style="background:white"><span 
style="color:black">&lt;bc-gnso@xxxxxxxxx&gt;<o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre 
style="background:white"><span 
style="color:black"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></pre><pre 
style="background:white"><span style="color:black">John, 
Zahid:<o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre style="background:white"><span 
style="color:black"> <o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre 
style="background:white"><span style="color:black" lang="EN-US">The attached 
chart may be helpful for you as you discuss the fake renewal 
<o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre style="background:white"><span style="color:black" 
lang="EN-US">issue.&nbsp; This chart documents the many fake 
renewal/registration claims we <o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre 
style="background:white"><span style="color:black" lang="EN-US">have received 
inside Verizon.&nbsp; Most come from companies located in China 
<o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre style="background:white"><span style="color:black" 
lang="EN-US">or Hong Kong.&nbsp; We?ve sent a cease and desist letter to each, 
written to <o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre style="background:white"><span 
style="color:black" lang="EN-US">the Hong Kong Telecom Authority and the FTC, 
all to no avail.<o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre style="background:white"><span 
style="color:black" lang="EN-US"> <o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre 
style="background:white"><span style="color:black" 
lang="EN-US">Sarah<o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre style="background:white"><span 
style="color:black" lang="EN-US"> <o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre 
style="background:white"><span style="color:black" 
lang="EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></pre><pre style="background:white"><span 
style="color:black" lang="EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></pre><pre 
style="background:white"><span style="color:black" lang="EN-US">Sarah B. 
Deutsch <o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre style="background:white"><span 
style="color:black" lang="EN-US">Vice President &amp; Associate General Counsel 
<o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre style="background:white"><span style="color:black" 
lang="EN-US">Verizon Communications <o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre 
style="background:white"><span style="color:black" lang="EN-US">Phone: <span 
class="skypepnhcontainer">&nbsp;</span><span 
class="skypepnhleftspan">&nbsp;&nbsp;</span><span 
class="skypepnhdropartflagspan">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</span><span
 class="skypepnhdropartspan">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</span><span 
class="skypepnhtextspan">703-351-3044</span><span 
class="skypepnhrightspan">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</span><span 
class="skypepnhcontainer">&nbsp;</span> <o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre 
style="background:white"><span style="color:black" lang="EN-US">Fax: 
703-351-3670 <o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre style="background:white"><span 
style="color:black" lang="EN-US">From: owner-bc-gnso@xxxxxxxxx [</span><span 
style="color:black"><a target="_blank" 
href="mailto:owner-bc-gnso@xxxxxxxxx";><span 
lang="EN-US">mailto:owner-bc-gnso@xxxxxxxxx</span></a></span><span 
style="color:black" lang="EN-US">] On Behalf <o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre 
style="background:white"><span style="color:black" lang="EN-US">Of Chris 
Chaplow<o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre style="background:white"><span 
style="color:black" lang="EN-US">Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2012 6:01 
PM<o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre style="background:white"><span 
style="color:black" lang="EN-US">To: 
bc-gnso@xxxxxxxxx<o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre style="background:white"><span 
style="color:black" lang="EN-US">Subject: [bc-gnso] Fake renewal 
notices<o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre style="background:white"><span 
style="color:black" lang="EN-US"> <o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre 
style="background:white"><span style="color:black" lang="EN-US">John and 
Zahid,<o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre style="background:white"><span 
style="color:black" lang="EN-US"> <o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre 
style="background:white"><span style="color:black" lang="EN-US">I probably will 
not be at the Council tomorrow. Here is the&nbsp; issue that 
<o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre style="background:white"><span style="color:black" 
lang="EN-US">steve mentioned.<o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre 
style="background:white"><span style="color:black" lang="EN-US"> 
<o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre style="background:white"><span style="color:black" 
lang="EN-US">I have website client who get fake renewal notices.&nbsp; Or phone 
calls.<o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre style="background:white"><span 
style="color:black" lang="EN-US"> <o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre 
style="background:white"><span style="color:black" lang="EN-US">?We have a 
client who wants to register&nbsp; <a 
href="http://name.cn";>name.cn</a>&nbsp;&nbsp; and as you have 
<o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre style="background:white"><span style="color:black" 
lang="EN-US"><a href="http://name.com";>name.com</a>&nbsp; and as we are a 
responsible registrar (actually not accredited) <o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre 
style="background:white"><span style="color:black" lang="EN-US">we wanted to 
check with you first before accepting our client?s order. Do 
<o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre style="background:white"><span style="color:black" 
lang="EN-US">you want to register for 10 years of $$$&nbsp; 
??<o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre style="background:white"><span 
style="color:black" lang="EN-US"> <o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre 
style="background:white"><span style="color:black" lang="EN-US">I advise my 
clients it is a scam, but just to be on the safe side they 
<o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre style="background:white"><span style="color:black" 
lang="EN-US">usually instructs me to make a defensive registration and I do so 
for one <o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre style="background:white"><span 
style="color:black" lang="EN-US">year with another registrar. 
<o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre style="background:white"><span style="color:black" 
lang="EN-US">&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre style="background:white"><span 
style="color:black" lang="EN-US">Best <o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre 
style="background:white"><span style="color:black" lang="EN-US">Chris 
Chaplow<o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre style="background:white"><span 
style="color:black" lang="EN-US">Managing Director<o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre 
style="background:white"><span style="color:black" lang="EN-US"><a 
href="http://Andalucia.com";>Andalucia.com</a> S.L.<o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre 
style="background:white"><span style="color:black">Avenida del Carmen 
9<o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre style="background:white"><span 
style="color:black">Ed. Puertosol, Puerto Deportivo<o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre 
style="background:white"><span style="color:black">1ª Planta, Oficina 
30<o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre style="background:white"><span 
style="color:black">Estepona, 29680<o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre 
style="background:white"><span style="color:black">Malaga, 
Spain<o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre style="background:white"><span 
style="color:black" lang="EN-US">Tel: <span 
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class="skypepnhleftspan">&nbsp;&nbsp;</span><span 
class="skypepnhdropartflagspan">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</span><span
 class="skypepnhdropartspan">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</span><span 
class="skypepnhtextspan">+ (34) 952 897 865</span><span 
class="skypepnhrightspan">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</span><span 
class="skypepnhcontainer">&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre 
style="background:white"><span style="color:black" lang="EN-US">Fax: + (34) 952 
897 874<o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre style="background:white"><span 
style="color:black" lang="EN-US">E-mail: 
chris@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre style="background:white"><span 
style="color:black" lang="EN-US">Web: <a 
href="http://www.andalucia.com";>www.andalucia.com</a><o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre
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about Andalucia, Spain.<o:p></o:p></span></pre><pre 
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