Re: [bc-gnso] NomCom

["Marilyn Cade " <marilynscade@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

I didn't hear any discussion along those lines. The transcript will be clear, I 
think. The Chair said that the CSG and she supported relying on election 
results, described her own research and familiarity with past selection process 
(whether election or seconm$ent not mentioned) and discussed the considerations 
by BC members. 

Maybe wait for transcript if anyone missed call? 

I mentioned that there is now a lot more published information from the NC for 
this year, available for all BC members to review. Which is an improvement to 
past available information. I think that was all that was discussed on the BC 
call. 



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Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2013 16:30:15 
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Subject: Re: [bc-gnso] NomCom

Thanks for that clarification J Scott. Not having been on the call I had not 
understood that there was discussion about manipulating the results to achieve 
diversity and obviously agree with you there.


Let's not shoot ourselves in the foot as a group. Let's get the right reps 
first, and then worry about fine tuning.


Thanks,


 
Stéphane Van Gelder
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Le 1 juil. 2013 à 18:27, "J. Scott Evans" <jscottevans@xxxxxxxxx 
<mailto:jscottevans@xxxxxxxxx> > a écrit :


Stephane:


I agree with you about geographic diversity.  I think we should most definitely 
strive for it.  That said, I do not think the Excom should manipulate election 
results in order to do so.  If we are concerned about this issue, perhaps we 
should change our bylaws to have the reps. nominated by the membership 
(including self-nomination) and then having the Excom appoint them to ensure a 
more controlled effort to reach the desired diversity and then have membership 
ratify the selections.


J. Scott

 
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I want to also apologize for not making today's call. I was also traveling and 
although I had arranged my travel around this call, I ended up being delayed 
and unable to join.




To J Scott's point about the NomCom, having given this some thought I agree 
that we should aim for two reps that are truly representative of their business 
areas. As was discussed before on this list, we as a group are fortunate to 
have two reps so we should make sure we provide the NomCom with appropriate 
candidates from those two business sectors (large and small).


I'm afraid I can't agree with the geo diversity argument however. To me, the 
need for geo diversity within ICANN is to make sure that regional 
representation is real, not theoretical. I would have no problem trusting a US 
rep to represent my views for example, but would still rather there was an 
actual slot for a European if possible. If no European is available to fill 
that slot, and a US rep is, then fine. But I think it should work in that order.


Sorry if I misunderstood the point. There was obviously some heated discussion 
during today's call so I certainly do not want to add to it.


Best,


Stéphane


Le 1 juil. 2013 à 17:54, J. Scott Evans <jscottevans@xxxxxxxxx 
<mailto:jscottevans@xxxxxxxxx> > a écrit :


Dear  All:


I am sorry that I could not make the call today.  Y! Pride and a husband that 
has to catch a plane have me committed elsewhere.


However, I do want to chime in on the NomCom issue.  First, I think I have been 
crystal clear about the absolute need to have a large business representative 
and a small business representative from the respective groups in order to 
maintain the credibility of these two separate seats for the BC.  Second, as 
for geographic diversity, I do not think that we need to manipulate the results 
of any election to have geographic diversity.  I think it is incumbent upon the 
elected NomCom reps to remember to reach out to non-North American BC members 
to ensure that we are serving our entire membership in the appropriate manner. 
 That point should go for any position for which we designate a BC member to 
serve.


Lastly, I want to call out Marilyn Cade for behavior that I find totally 
offensive.  Her repeated attempts to assassinate the character of Sarah Deutsch 
for her previous service to the BC on the NomCom is totally unfounded and 
offensive.  I had the honor of serving with Sarah on the NomCom as the IPC 
representative.  I can, without hesitation, say that Sarah served the BC with 
honor and fought hard to get good candidates selected to all the positions. 
 What is truly sad is how hard Sarah fought and how Marilyn, who was then 
Chair, has failed to acknowledge Sarah's service.  I know some may not 
appreciate my being so direct on the list, but I think it is time we openly 
discuss Marilyn's unprofessional behavior on this point.  I respect Marilyn and 
appreciate all she has done and continues to do for business, but on this issue 
she is simply wrong.


J. Scott

 
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