Re: [bc-gnso] FOR REVIEW BY 11-AUG: BC comments on Expert Working Group for Directory Services ( new Whois)

["J. Scott Evans" <jscottevans@xxxxxxxxx>]

Dear All:

I have reviewed Bill's emails, his comments and those added by Stephane.  I am 
fine with Stephane's comments so long as we all feel this wouldn't be a 
political bombshell (however realistic and practical it may be).

As for Bill's suggestion about "entities".  I have attempted to suggest 
language that I think assuage my concerns.  Bill?

J. Scott
 
j. scott evans -  head of global brand, domains & copyright - Yahoo! Inc. - 
408.349.1385 - jscottevans@xxxxxxxxx




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 From: "Smith, Bill" <bill.smith@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: "<stephvg@xxxxxxxxx>" <stephvg@xxxxxxxxx> 
Cc: J. Scott Evans <jscottevans@xxxxxxxxx>; "Smith, Bill" 
<bill.smith@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; Steve DelBianco <sdelbianco@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>; 
"bc-gnso@xxxxxxxxx list" <bc-gnso@xxxxxxxxx> 
Sent: Monday, August 5, 2013 12:37 PM
Subject: Re: [bc-gnso] FOR REVIEW BY 11-AUG: BC comments on Expert Working 
Group for Directory Services ( new Whois)
 


I have attached an updated version. I'm quite happy with Stephane's addition 
but would ask J. Scott to offer alternative language for "entities" and to look 
with Yahoo to get a better understanding of the complexity and difficulty of 
operating a large-scale directory infrastructure, especially one that is by its 
nature sensitive. 

(see my comments within J Scott's comments)


Any move from a freely available public WHOIS system to one that is mediated 
and subject to access controls requires careful consideration. Implementing a 
secure, internet-scale, global directory for "accredited" security 
professionals will be no small task.



On Aug 5, 2013, at 11:50 AM, <stephvg@xxxxxxxxx>
 wrote:

I have added to J Scott's latest redraft a bit at the end about the possibility 
of extending this work to the cc space. 
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>The wording is not perfect IMO, but hopefully the intent is clear.
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>Thanks,
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>Stéphane Van Gelder
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>Le 5 août 2013 à 18:58, "J. Scott Evans" <jscottevans@xxxxxxxxx> a écrit :
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>Bill and team:
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>>I have re-reviewed the draft with Bill's suggested revisions.  I have 
>>attached a redline showing my thoughts on top of Bill's suggested edits.
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>>J. Scott
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>>j. scott evans -  head of global brand, domains & copyright - Yahoo! Inc. - 
>>408.349.1385 - jscottevans@xxxxxxxxx
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>>________________________________
>> From: "Smith, Bill" <bill.smith@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>To: "stephvg@xxxxxxxxx" <stephvg@xxxxxxxxx> 
>>Cc: Steve DelBianco <sdelbianco@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>; "bc-gnso@xxxxxxxxx list" 
>><bc-gnso@xxxxxxxxx> 
>>Sent: Monday, August 5, 2013 9:12 AM
>>Subject: Re: [bc-gnso] FOR REVIEW BY 11-AUG: BC comments on Expert Working 
>>Group for Directory Services ( new Whois)
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>>+1 
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>>Attached is a marked up version of the document. I have attempted to replace 
>>web and website with Internet and service (generally) and hope that my 
>>changes read properly. I believe it important to make the distinction between 
>>the web and Internet since the ARDS is used for much more than the web.
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>>I also included some comments and additions that I believe are necessary to 
>>include. In particular, I disagree with the assertion that there is no 
>>foundation for the belief that the scale of the ARDS make it vulnerable. 
>>Internet entities are vulnerable regardless of size but as they grow, they 
>>become increasingly attractive targets. ARDS will be attractive - or the 
>>Registrar community has been disingenuous about the scale of SPAM, customer 
>>loss, etc. that results from harvesting information via WHOIS.
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>>I have also added text related to Gated Access and concerns related to data 
>>aggregation and operation of such a critical resource necessarily dependent 
>>on PII of security professionals. These individuals face very real risks 
>>given the work they do, those they "oppose", and the penalties imposed for 
>>crimes they uncover.
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>>I hope we will consider the changes I have proposed.
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>>On Aug 3, 2013, at 3:51 PM, stephvg@xxxxxxxxx wrote:
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>>Thank you Steve, Laura, Susan, J Scott and Elisa for a well drafted document 
>>that I believe is perfectly inline with business users interests as defined 
>>by our charter. 
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>>>If I might make a suggestion, even though it's out of scope of the EWG's 
>>>work, I would love to see something in our opening comments about the fact 
>>>that if the RDS model is adopted (or another unified model for managing gTLD 
>>>registration data), it would be extremely beneficial for Internet users 
>>>worldwide if ccTLD registries were also willing to work towards the adoption 
>>>of the same, single-format, model.
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>>>I think it's useful for commentors to the EWG's draft report to make this 
>>>point, even though ccTLD managers abide by their own national laws and ways 
>>>of doing things, because we all have a lot to gain from a more effective and 
>>>more uniform registration data database.
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>>>Apart from that suggestion, I have no other comments. The draft seems spot 
>>>on to me and is supported by SVG Consulting Ltd.
>>>
>>>
>>>Thanks,
>>>
>>>
>>>Stéphane Van Gelder
>>>Chairman and Managing Director/Fondateur
>>>STEPHANE VAN GELDER CONSULTING
>>>
>>>T (FR): +33 (0)6 20 40 55 89
>>>T (UK): +44 (0)7583 457053
>>>Skype: SVANGELDER
>>>www.StephaneVanGelder.com
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>>>Le 3 août 2013 à 17:53, Steve DelBianco <sdelbianco@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> a écrit :
>>>
>>>It's time for the BC to comment on the draft model for Next Generation gTLD 
>>>Directory Services. 
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>>>>
>>>>The Expert Working Group (EWG) published its draft report here.  
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>>>>Public comment page is here and the EWG Wiki page is here.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Laura Covington prepared the attached draft of BC comments, with help from 
>>>>Susan Kawaguchi, J Scott Evans, and Elisa Cooper.
>>>>
>>>>The comment period closes 12-Aug-2013, so please Reply All before 11-Aug 
>>>>with edits or questions.   
>>>>
>>>>--Steve DelBiancoVice chair for policy coordination
>>>>Business Constituency 
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>>>>
>>>>><BC Comments - EWG Draft Model [v1].doc>
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>><BC Comments - EWG Draft Model [v1] -JSE2.doc>
><BC Comments - EWG Draft Model [v1] -JSE2-SVG.doc>