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Reply comment to David Cohen, D. F., - No aliasing should be done for IDN's. No need for clarification from Verisign or PIR

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  • Subject: Reply comment to David Cohen, D. F., - No aliasing should be done for IDN's. No need for clarification from Verisign or PIR
  • From: Toren Chikalut <tochikalut@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2013 23:43:53 +0200

Dear ICANN,



No aliasing should be done for IDN's. No need for clarification from
Verisign or PIR.



CNNIC at the end of the day, did not see any confusion or problem in having
ChineseIDN.CN & ChineseIDN. 中国 go to separate owners (CN=中国=China).

The major difference in their case is that both co-existed for quite
awhile. In the new gTLD's we are talking about a new delegation of IDN.IDN
so this is very different. Hence in this case it is much simpler and there
isn’t the slightest problem in delegating them to separate owners, as those
IDN.IDN did not exist within ICANN until now.



In addition other ccTLD didn’t differentiate or see a problem in that.



If their claim were to be accepted it would mean that 100% there will be
confusion in the new gTLD's between applications for  .GAMES vs. JUEGOS
("games" in Spanish) and many others. Since there is no confusion in those
cases there would be no confusion between .COM or .ORG in English to the
transliteration in Chinese Arabic Hebrew Russian etc…!



Besides all these points please see the following links which clearly
describes why there is no confusion and why they should be given to new
comers.

https://gtldcomment.icann.org/comments-feedback/applicationcomment/commentdetails/11167

https://gtldcomment.icann.org/comments-feedback/applicationcomment/commentdetails/11168

https://gtldcomment.icann.org/comments-feedback/applicationcomment/commentdetails/11172



 The confusion is only in the mind of certain hybrid IDN domain owners who
are looking out for their own interest, and trying to mislead the public.
They have no legal rights or standing for IDN.IDN in Arabic, Hebrew,
Chinese , Korean or Russian, whether it be in .COM .NET or .ORG
transliterations.



All the comments about aliasing were orchestrated by the same few people
who all have one agenda in mind and were asked to post in different
languages to make it seem they are actual users.

Surprisingly, some of them in fact wanted to argue for having freedom to
point variants to different places but were told to shut up at this stage.
The answer they got was that pushing for freedom to point variants to
different sites  is half-way to arguing the case for allowing for different
owners of the variants. So clearly they themselves after they get the
domains see no confusion at all, if it were to go to different sites or
owners.



Verisign and PIR can feel very safe to open the new IDN era, and give it to
new applicants. They have no legal obligation to give it to any existing
hybrid domain owners. In fact they must NOT alias any of those domains if
they plan to meet the ICANN goal to reach end users.



Kind regards,

Toren


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