[gnso-arr-dt] FW: Availability?

[Glen de Saint Géry <Glen@xxxxxxxxx>]

Forwarded From: Gomes, Chuck
Sent: samedi 9 janvier 2010 18:38
To: William Drake
Cc: Caroline Greer; Olga Cavalli; Glen de Saint Géry
Subject: RE: Availability?

I am not talking about criteria for the RT members.  I am talking about what is 
referred to as "indicators" in the AoC for the reviews themselves.  For 
example, in the first review, criteria that will be measured to determine 
whether ICANN has met the objectives of being accountable and transparent.  If 
those indicators are clearly and objectively defined in advance of the review, 
then the RT's task is to evaluate whether they have been satisfied in an 
objective manner.  Their task would not be to directly represent the groups 
they come from in terms of whether their group believes ICANN was accountable 
and transparent but rather to review the evidence gathered to determine whether 
the "indicators" were satified and then document their conclusions based on 
evidence gathered related to the predefined "indicators".

In my opinion the task of the RTs is to evaluate whether the goals of the AoC 
are met, not to determine whether the community supports how ICANN functioned.

Chuck

________________________________
From: William Drake
Sent: Friday, January 08, 2010 12:45 PM
To: Gomes, Chuck
Cc: Caroline Greer; Olga Cavalli; glen
Subject: Re: Availability?
What kind of objective/measurable indicators do you have in mind, Chuck?  When 
I think about what makes a good candidate, many of the qualities that leap to 
mind seem difficult to treat in this manner...

BD

On Jan 8, 2010, at 11:35 AM, Gomes, Chuck wrote:


The key issue in my opinion are the "indicators" (evaluation criteria).  If 
they are clearly defined and as objective/measurable as possible then the 
politics of representation should be minimized.  But we first need to agree 
among ourselves in this regard.

Chuck

________________________________
From: William Drake
Sent: Friday, January 08, 2010 12:20 PM
To: Caroline Greer
Cc: Olga Cavalli; glen, Gomes, Chuck
Subject: Re: Availability?
Hi

Great, appreciate the scheduling consideration.  Well, I guess the question is, 
would a council response need to cover anything more than the number of 
representatives?  Are there other points about the overall draft plan we ought 
to be addressing?  I have my own thoughts but I don't know that they'd 
necessarily be things the council would agree on; maybe NCSG or NCUC will do 
its own response.   Anyway, if there are not others the council should get 
into, then we're probably talking like a one page letter, no?

The other big issues for the council are internal matters that needn't be in 
the letter, no?  E.g. our processes for gathering expressions of 
interest/applications, nominating people (and how council vs non-council 
candidates are assessed), whether the nominees selected will participate as 
independent experts or have xyz obligations to coordinate with council and 
reflect or at least convey its views, etc...I suppose we could formally spell 
such things out to the larger community if we want, but mixing them into the 
letter might detract from its main emphasis.

BD


On Jan 8, 2010, at 10:37 AM, Caroline Greer wrote:


Sounds good to me. I suggest however that we put our thinking caps on in the 
meantime as regards draft comments and selection methodology and circulate any 
comments amongst ourselves, to get things moving before then if possible.
Caroline.
From:  On Behalf Of Olga Cavalli
Sent: 08 January 2010 16:31
To: William Drake
Cc: Caroline Greer; glen, Chuck Gomes
Subject: Re: Availability?
Hi,
Considering the short notice and Bill´s travels, I suggest that Glen could help 
us with the following:

1- Set up an email list for this drafting team, icluding Caroline, Bill, Chuck 
and myself as starting point.
2- Send a message to the Council list to see if someone else wants to volunteer 
and be added to the list.
3- Send a doodle to us in order to finding a good time on Wednesday for the 
call.

Sounds ok?
Have a nice weekend!!
Regards
Olga



2010/1/8 William Drake
I'm on a plane Monday and will be useless after arriving Tuesday.  If this 
can't wait until Wednesday then go ahead without me and I'll get into the loop 
post hoc.
BD
On Jan 7, 2010, at 2:51 PM, olga cavalli wrote:



Thanks Caroline
Monday is ok for me, what about you Bill?
I sugesst that the three of us start and Glen can help us in the meantime with 
setting up an email list, a doodlde for mondays call and a message to the 
council list asking for more volunteers.
Sorry Glen if this is overloading you with work!!
Does this sound ok?
Best regards
Olga

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________________________________
From: "Caroline Greer"
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 2010 23:39:32 -0000
To:  william.drake; glen
Cc: olga cavalli; c. gomes
Subject: Re: Availability?

It would be helpful if I copied Glen of course, and apologies for the multiple 
emails Chuck/Olga/Bill. Am a bit cross-eyed after 9 hours straight of 
conference calls today....

----------------
Caroline Greer
Director of Policy
dotMobi


----- Original Message -----
From: Caroline Greer
To: 'william.drake
Cc: olga cavalli; c.gomes
Sent: Thu Jan 07 23:33:54 2010
Subject: Re: Availability?

Nice to (virtually) meet you too Bill! I look forward to putting faces to names 
in Nairobi.

I believe Chuck asked Glenn on the call to circulate a call for more volunteers 
so why don't we let her go ahead and do that and maybe we can still set up a 
kick off call for Monday or Tuesday. If you can join, great, if not, just drop 
in later (I am sorry to hear about your situation). We should probably aim to 
have something ready by the end of next week - it may need polishing and 
tweaking over next weekend.

Glenn, would you be happy to issue a call for volunteers to step forward by CoB 
tomorrow or is that something that we should do ourselves?

Olga, is this all ok with you?

Many thanks


----------------
Caroline Greer
Director of Policy
dotMobi


----- Original Message -----
From: William Drake
To: Caroline Greer
Cc: olga cavalli;  Gomes, Chuck
Sent: Thu Jan 07 23:18:12 2010
Subject: Re: Availability?

Hi Caroline,

First of all, nice to meet you, don't think we have had the occasion to 
communicate prior...Olga and I were just asking each other who was it who was 
the voice that volunteered-hard to catch all the conversation details after 2 
1/2 hours---so glad you got in contact.

As I said to Olga, the timing is lousy for me, I'm in Chicago dealing with a 
terminally ill parent, then flying back to Geneva Monday, and have a bunch of 
stuff to do immediately upon arrival Tuesday. That's why I gulped loudly when 
Chuck suggested a week.  Shooting to draft a couple pages by the weekend 
following (16th-17th) would be infinitely better at my end, if possible.  We'd 
still have time to circulate it well in advance of the next council call.  If 
that's problematic, then I might have to play more of a supporting, finishing 
touches sort of role.

We might want to issue an open invite to participate on the council list, since 
a) a number of people either missed or dropped off the call, or b) might have 
needed a few more moments to decide whether they'd be interested.  After all, 
it takes a more open team to suggest a more open team...

Thoughts?

Bill



On Jan 7, 2010, at 5:04 PM, Caroline Greer wrote:


        Dear Olga / Bill,

        Would you both be free some stage on Monday to discuss our homework for 
the Council on the AoC report?

        I am on GMT but am flexible as to time so just let me know your 
availability (I am tied up tomorrow unfortunately but next Tuesday is also a 
possibility). I am happy to provide a conference line. I guess we should get 
cracking although others may join our group.....




        Thanks,

        Caroline.




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