[gnso-consumercci-dt] Adobe Connect - Chat Transcript from Consumercci-dt

[Gisella Gruber-White <Gisella.Gruber-White@xxxxxxxxx>]

>  Rosemary:my line is on hold???? R
>  Rosemary:now re-dialling
>  Rosemary:call dropped out again??? i'll try once more
>  Wendy Seltzer:The gateway to limbo is announced with "Welcome to the
>Conference Calling Center..."
>  Rosemary:dropped off agan!!
>  Steve DelBianco:2 weeks is good
>  Olivier Crepin-Leblond:Every 2 weeks i
>  Olivier Crepin-Leblond:keeps the group alive
>  Wendy Seltzer:not great timing for me
>  Wendy Seltzer:but manageable
>  Steve DelBianco:might be good to rotate the time so inconvenince is
>distributed evenly!
>  Alex Gakuru:rotate times...
>  Carlos Dionisio Aguirre:I agree two week meeting
>  Carlos Dionisio Aguirre:of course with rotate times
>  Gisella Gruber-White:Cheryl Langdon-Orr has joined the call
>  Alex Gakuru:"Isues Paper" vs. "issues report"
>  Liz Gasster:Staff prefers "discussion paper" so as not to confuse with
>an "Issues Report" which has a specific meaning
>  Liz Gasster:thanks Alex!
>  Steve DelBianco:its "advice" we are chartered to provice.
>  Alex Gakuru:...recall Board treats "advice" differently from
>"recommendations"
>  clo:and treat  GAC given by ALAC advice  differently to that
>  clo:+++  to e
>  clo:to Steve
>  clo:we did  get a good  CoCharter out of the DSSA process  so good
>CROSS Community Charters  can be done with a simple  outline Charter  as
>Steve proposed  this  could be  more easily done
>  clo:keeping things  to the resoluti9n from the Board  is the best way
>to go IMO
>  clo:Can we ask for proposed dates  for some of these issues  especially
> the draft Charter  as  AC & SO  meetings are fixed
>  clo:ALAC  in fact meets 4th  Tue of the month
>  clo:The Aug Meeting for cNSO is (I believe)  Aug 9th...
>  clo:YEP   agree with @Steve
>  Liz Gasster:we have a charter template that will save some time re:
>charter drafting
>  Olivier Crepin-Leblond:26th July, then 23rd. Question is, do we have
>the freedom to lose a complete month?
>  Wendy Seltzer:<snark>wow, maybe we need to meet twice a week at this
>pace</snark>
>  clo:can a cross community Wiki  be set up then?  to start the actual
>work
>  clo:and  that will assist  any GAC  involvement  as well
>  clo:ALAC and GAC  as AC's  have explored  ways of doing  more
>intersessional work  which also might help here as well BIT  a space to
>share and observe issues under discussion is important
>  Wendy Seltzer:glad to help lighten the mood :)
>  clo:well Wendy  many of us DO eet in WG's  at least twice a week  <no
>SNARF>
>  Steve DelBianco:lets remember to invite GAC to our calls and copy them
>on our work
>  Wendy Seltzer:Yes, Cheryl, I often do too
>  clo:YES  and ALAC  might be able to help here with what were already
>doing
>  Wendy Seltzer:Competition: Described by economic measures, including
>number of suppliers, market concentration, ease of entry, and pricing
>close to marginal cost.Choice: The ability of domain name registrants to
>select among diverse strings and competing registries to find products
>and services that meet their individual needs. (Diversity might include
>jurisdiction, scripts, and policies.)Trust: The stability and consistency
>of domain name resolution, such that unique identifiers work all the time
>and deliver consistent results when used.
>  clo:can these deffinitions  be put up in the wiki  to esure we
>encoutage  wider discussion then
>  Gisella Gruber-White:Wendy - please send these to me to put up in the
>wiki
>  clo:Indeed  Steve  good points  on Trust
>  clo:yup  a measure of what the Registry promises and what it delivers
>IS something I beleive  At-Large  might want to be discussion  as well
>  Michael Salazar:On competition the definition includes "pricing close
>to marginal cost" - how will that be measured?  Will registries be
>willing to offer up their marginal cost?
>  clo:as we have  a diversity of views  yet a strong  view of  needing
>stron ICANN Complience on contracts
>  clo:this  topic  part needs LOT more talking  IMO
>  Alex Gakuru:who's trust(ing) whom?
>  clo:yup Alex  that and a whole lot more
>  Steve DelBianco:to Michael's point:  marginal cost is really not the
>measure.   It's whether costs are competitive with costs of domain
>registrations in other/existing gTLDs.
>  Steve DelBianco:keep trying to reach them, and please keep a record of
>your attempts
>  Alex Gakuru:bye,
>  Rosemary:bye for now
>  Wendy Seltzer:marginal cost pricing is one of the ways to identify a
>truly competitive market.
>  Wendy Seltzer:whether we can get the measures we need is a separate
>matter
>  clo:glad  were getting started  to the doscussion bits  Bye for now
>  Michael Salazar:for similar TLDs
>  Wendy Seltzer:for any TLD. If price is way above marginal cost, it
>suggests there's not a competitive market.
>  Michael Salazar:Perhaps...but dotBANK for instance might set a fairly
>high cost for other reasons
>  Rosemary:we would know what MC looks like in DNS by mow surely?????
>  Wendy Seltzer:but I'm guessing we'll have lots more discussion!
>  clo:yup
>  Wendy Seltzer:Michael: sure, and they'd *also* be trying to be unique,
>not competitive
>  clo:best make sure we capture and dhare this AC room chat  to the list
>WHEN it finishes
>  Michael Salazar:yup - can discuss next time...
>  Wendy Seltzer:good night!