Re: [gnso-consumercci-dt] RE: Adobe Connect - Chat Transcript from Consumercci-dt

[Stéphane Van Gelder <stephane.vangelder@xxxxxxxxx>]

Tim,

Just seeing your email now.

Please see the response I have just sent to Rosemary ccing Council.

I would seek Council approval before sending the letter, so I would encourage 
members of this group that are Councillors to voice their views in response to 
my email on the Council list as that would be most helpful to me.

Thanks,

Stéphane



Le 1 août 2011 à 05:20, Tim Ruiz a écrit :

> Isn't this getting the cart before the horse? The Council should be
> allowed to act before sending such a letter.
> 
> 
> Tim
> 
> > -------- Original Message --------
> > Subject: [gnso-consumercci-dt] RE: Adobe Connect - Chat Transcript from
> > Consumercci-dt
> > From: Rosemary Sinclair <rosemary.sinclair@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Date: Sat, July 30, 2011 5:12 pm
> > To: Margie Milam <Margie.Milam@xxxxxxxxx>, 
> > "gnso-consumercci-dt@xxxxxxxxx" <gnso-consumercci-dt@xxxxxxxxx>
> > 
> > Hi all
> > 
> > Here is the letter I have asked Stephane to send.....if you have any
> > comments or suggestions please feel free to come back to me...
> > 
> > I'm away for a couple of days but will be checking email...
> > 
> > Cheers
> > 
> > Rosemary
> > ________________________________________
> > From: owner-gnso-consumercci-dt@xxxxxxxxx
> > [owner-gnso-consumercci-dt@xxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Margie Milam
> > [Margie.Milam@xxxxxxxxx]
> > Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2011 7:14 AM
> > To: gnso-consumercci-dt@xxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [gnso-consumercci-dt] FW: Adobe Connect - Chat Transcript from
> > Consumercci-dt
> > 
> > Dear All,
> > 
> > Please find below the chat transcript from today's call. Please note
> > that the next meeting for this DT is scheduled for 10 Aug at 2000 UTC,
> > and will run for 90 minutes.
> > 
> > All the best,
> > 
> > Margie
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: margie.milam@xxxxxxxxx [mailto:margie.milam@xxxxxxxxx]
> > Sent: Wednesday, July 27, 2011 3:06 PM
> > To: Margie Milam
> > Subject: Adobe Connect - Chat Transcript from Consumercci-dt
> > 
> > CLO:Hi all
> > CLO:*sigh* pity no one assisted you in getting it *right* 
> > Rosemary
> > CLO:No point inOCL & I taking it TO ALAC to endorse as a CCWG 
> > till GNSO do what whatever THEY so desire I' ll also hold off on
> > what I was proposing woth ccNSO as well *SOGH*
> > CLO:once it starts work as a pure GNSO CO WG I DOUBT it would 
> > morph into a CWG so WHY would the other AC's & SO's bother doing
> > other than working our own turf work and so HAVE to spread our 
> > resources thinky
> > CLO:THinky = Thinly ... So IF we were to have a copy of the
> > probable GNSO Charter to work "with" that would be most useful....
> > Margie Milam:I have posted Wendy's suggestion in the Notes section
> > below the agenda
> > CLO:AI alsoo would be for GNSO to also request formal and
> > informal (general) ccNSO, ALAC and GAC "membership/ reps" for the GNSO 
> > WG Consumer Trust Choice andMetrics work
> > Rosemary:thanks Margie
> > CLO:Yes I agree they are not mutually exclusive BUT if we were to
> > just use ONE that would not IMO satisfy *our (where our = end user /
> > consumer / registrant) needs* to that end outcomes that have wider
> > more inclusive definitions to work with would I beleive assist our
> > ability to meet the AoC desired measurements better...
> > CLO:and YES we need to be careful about the term supplier to meet
> > pur needs issue that Steve is raising now is VERY appointment re
> > suitabliity to purpose => analogy consumer care re utility supply
> > origuin is less than choice of quality suply that meets their needs
> > preferably where they can get the "best deal to meet their needs 
> > sometimes that means a start with fewer choices and more limited
> > costing diversity that the changes over time but the utility /service 
> > options will change this is actually good for the metrics use where
> > we can have an assumption that price points will lowere or diversity
> > of choice oin price will continue to occur over time post gTLD launch
> > CLO:yep I agree Jonathan a measure of course of how price *may*
> > change over time could be useful for us to watch / measure as ongoing
> > measure of metrics
> > Jonathan Zuck:Even though we're talking about "generic" TLDs, this
> > round is truly going to represent a movement towards the specific and
> > away from the generic
> > Alex Gakuru:sharing two links: 1. http://www.domain-price-wars.com/
> > Alex Gakuru:2.
> > http://icannwiki.com/index.php?title=Domain_Statistics
> > Steve DelBianco:Competition: the availability, at reasonable prices
> > and terms, of TLDs in every script and language, from multiple TLD
> > operators. Competition measures would include relative price
> > comparisons, quantitiy of TLD operators, and presence of new entrants as
> > TLD operators.
> > Jonathan Zuck:percentage of defensive versus useful registrations
> > Margie Milam:yes- I'll do it
> > Steve DelBianco:if we use that as the competition definition, we can
> > move the "suitable" purpose and script terms into the CHOICE
> > definition
> > CLO:Carlos assume the Joint / Cross Community WG will NOT happen 
> > and this is just work for the GNSO one that WILL get chartered
> > CLO:yes this is unfortunate but it is what it is
> > CLO:issue is we need to get i9n with the work
> > CLO:having our discussions recorded ona public access Wiki will
> > help minimise the frustration of repetition aspect of what Carlos
> > raised
> > Alex Gakuru:@jonathan, will all regitrants be asked if 'defensive' or
> > 'useful' registrations?
> > CLO:Margie your both Psycic and a wonder thanks saves me asking
> > for just that :-)
> > Carlos Dionisio Aguirre:.mi position is : if we want to have an
> > inclusive and open joint WG between SO/AC. I think is needed to have the
> > opinions about this concepts coming from differents actors evolved. we
> > are talking about concepts very complex to define, and the definition
> > will be different from different actors. on the other hand every concept
> > (Competition, Consumer choice & consumer trust) are very related among
> > them, and all of them have to do with different interest. The discussion
> > is very productive, usefull but not all opinions are here.
> > Jonathan Zuck:well one measure of a defensive registration might be
> > whether it's a new site or just a pointer . It's not anything we hold
> > anyone to, it's just something to track.
> > CLO:Well Carlos that very sticky call is VERY much a GNSO issue
> > now/atm so as a Coincillor do your best to GET the GNSO Council to
> > support the option OF a Joint or Cross CWG
> > Jonathan Zuck:@Alex/CLO well one measure of a defensive registration
> > might be whether it's a new site or just a pointer . It's not anything
> > we hold anyone to, it's just something to track.
> > Carlos Dionisio Aguirre:@Ill try.
> > CLO:Yes Jonathan agreed that would be a useful deffinition
> > Carlos Dionisio Aguirre:@clo Ill try
> > CLO: Jonathan the Board Resolution * I thought* specified a
> > request for ADVICE form the AC & SO's
> > CLO:I'm OK with 14 day breaks and at thiss time is fine
> > Alex Gakuru:Flexible
> > Debra Hughes:flexible
> > Steve DelBianco:2 weeks and this time is okay
> > john berard:I am OK with every two weeks at this hour
> > CLO:work it to best fit in with Margie
> > Steve DelBianco:anyone else think we need 90 minutes instead of an
> > hour?
> > CLO:yup fine by me
> > Jonathan Zuck:90 is fine with me
> > Steve DelBianco:it just seems that we run out of time before we run
> > out of steam at 60 m,inutes
> > Alex Gakuru:bye all
> > Debra Hughes:bye
> > 
> > 
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